BLACK II Sat Oct 1st Englishtown NJ

Black II will be on Saturday Oct 1st in NJ.  

It will be held in Raceway Park
Englishtown NJ


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Trophy Categories include

1st-3rd Lexus Large Sedan 2001+
1st-3rd Lexus Large Sedan 90-00
1st-3rd Infiniti Large Sedan 2001+
1st-3rd Infiniti Large Sedan 90-00
1st-2nd Mercedes Benz Large Sedan
1st-2nd Euro Large Sedan
1st-2nd Domestic Luxury Sedan
1st-2nd Japanese Other Luxury Sedan
1st-2nd Exotic Sedan
1st-2nd Euro Luxury Coupe
1st-2nd Japanese Luxury Coupe
1st-2nd Vip Style Van/Box/Wagon
Best Tuck Fitment
Best Flush Fitment
Best Interior
Best Ice
Best Paint
Lowest Drive-able
Best Team Presented by Liberty VIP
Best of Show + $2,000 Luxury Abstract Wheel Gift Certificate*
Most miles driven to attend
Lowest static
Most JDM VIP
Fan Favorite
Best Luxury non Vip

There are some rumors of guys driving from all over the place but lets let them confirm :biggthumpup:

There will be more giveaways too but we are working that out as we speak.

wish the GS was ready for this!

Just marked my calendar...Ill be attending, no car showing though

Where's the "[B]Mediocre Lexus Large Sedan 90-00[/B]" category?  I'd have a shot at winning that.  =)

liberty takes home every trophy amirite? lol

anywho good luck with the show

^^^^^^ same thing I was thinking lol

I would assume that there will be impartial judging. If your car speaks for itself, then it will win in it's category... 
 
Really tho, who really gives a shit about a trophy in this Style??? I personally got a room full of trophies that I don't give a shit about.

[QUOTE=rodneyc77;401685]I would assume that there will be impartial judging. If your car speaks for itself, then it will win in it's category... 
 
Really tho, who really gives a shit about a trophy in this Style??? I personally got a room full of trophies that I don't give a shit about.[/QUOTE]

I was just just joking no need to get all serious......I think I lot of us here have awards collecting dust

But I think its fair to those who will be attending (not me...its too far) should know that they are getting a fair shake and not going to a liberty held show and watch liberty take most of the awards

Get upset if u may I'm just saying what I know some people are thinking ......and here's hoping u guys have a successful event

lol I didn't mean it like that, I just mean with the location of the show (nothing you can do), that it'll be mostly liberty so as a result, mostly liberty cars will be taking home trophies not to mention how most of liberty are built well also

:runcoold:
 
I'm not upset in the least homies. I just felt that I had to respond in that tone because the comments could have been misunderstood. 
 
For the record, it's not a "Liberty held show" - it's a vip themed show that just so happen that a Liberty Member (without a car :smiley-rofl:) is the organizer and promoter. He's trying to bring variety to the everyday car show events held in this part of the country. I'm attending to see and maybe get to put a face to the cars. I'm hoping that people would show initiative and roll out to this event. I know it will be worth the trip. 
 
@DirtyATL... Homie make the trip... it's not that far... Bring some ATL females with you... :dance:

yea liberty will be taking most of the awards, but thats only cus liberty has all the nice vip cars on the east coast haha

I want some trophies... lol...

Future events thread :Liberty shuts down Black II

^^^ LOL

LOLOL @ thomas

its true...have you seen the pictures in the other threads?  Huge crowds gathered around.

the Waffle and Maple syrup might be there ... IF i dont sell them by then =)

that's why people from other Regions needs to come SHUT IT DOWN!!!

I could see the headline Now ... 
 
Team Canadan are you guys up for a long drive ??? 
 
 
[SIZE=4]5 Canadians injured  in NJ after brutal Tire explosion ..  While Hot maple syrup burns for days  :smiley-rofl:[/SIZE]
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This just in...Canadaian Bacon is just.....HAM

Can't wait!  Should be a great time!

werd. i would love to see some of the cars from different areas. would be so dope

Its my show, funded by me.  I am apart of Liberty and without their help as well as cars, there is no show.  There for its a "Liberty" show.  Money is clearly not the motive.  Running an event like this in such a niche scene is going to end up being a loss for probably another year or two.  Its more of a pride thing.  We are doing it cause we love the scene and this is one way to help it progress to the Hawaii and SoCal levels that we will strive to reach.  Giving people something to plan for in terms of modding their cars to the next level is a good thing.  Lots of spectators come up to us at the shows we do, telling us they are planning to go hard for this event and its the only show they plan to do all year with their car.  That feels great hearing that.

As far as trophies go, it will be as unbiassed as we can do it.  Best team will not go to Liberty.  Liberty members will only judge categories that we don't have members in (like domestics, vans/boxes, etc.).  Judging will be done by a neutral party.  No white gloves or anything too crazy.

  Out of the 200 best vip trophies you all have in your closets, how many mean anything?  Most of the time you are beating out 2-3 cars to get that.  If trophies are your motive, beating out some nice competition will definitely feel better than winning something by default.

Lots of people travel great distances to shows that are pretty much the same as the ones they go to locally.  This one will have a majority of the cars that you are all into.  Make the trip car or no car.

To keep it 100....if gas would not kill me and I didn't have other " more important life matters " going on I would like to attend this event WITH my car.....not for trophies n such,  but just to see some of these cars I always see online in person and more importantly meet the people behind them,  trophies are cool n all but really don't matter to me anymore....for me its more about bonding with cats who have similar interest as myself a trophy would just be a bonus,  I'm not completely ruling out this show because thing may happen that may allow me to show up ...but if not I'm still hoping u guys have a great event so it can grow for the future


BTW have u ever thought about moving the event further south in the future (say Virginia or something ) so cats like me from the south can have a more bearable drive to make......it would be like meeting half way or something ......east coast cats can drive from up north and us dirty south cats could drive up....just a suggestion

And I would still like to know the meaning behind all this "shut it down" business ....its a car show,  people come to look at cars or am I missing something?  People pack up n leave or something like that?

[QUOTE=DIRTYATL;401831]And I would still like to know the meaning behind all this "shut it down" business ....its a car show,  people come to look at cars or am I missing something?  People pack up n leave or something like that?[/QUOTE]

Example: "We shut down that show, cats went crazy when we rolled in,  they had never seen VIP the way we bring it....True story bro."

Shutting down as in owning the event due to the caliber of cars they brought compared to the less attractive cars brought by others, ultimately ending up with them stealing the spot light at the show.  :yahoo_26:

Side note: Hey Widebody_q If you need any help with the show let me know.

^^^ OK......

[QUOTE=DIRTYATL;401829]To keep it 100....if gas would not kill me and I didn't have other " more important life matters " going on I would like to attend this event WITH my car.....not for trophies n such,  but just to see some of these cars I always see online in person and more importantly meet the people behind them,  trophies are cool n all but really don't matter to me anymore....for me its more about bonding with cats who have similar interest as myself a trophy would just be a bonus,  I'm not completely ruling out this show because thing may happen that may allow me to show up ...but if not I'm still hoping u guys have a great event so it can grow for the future


BTW have u ever thought about moving the event further south in the future (say Virginia or something ) so cats like me from the south can have a more bearable drive to make......it would be like meeting half way or something ......east coast cats can drive from up north and us dirty south cats could drive up....just a suggestion[/QUOTE]

Werd..Im with you. Make the trip if you can. Would love to see other cars and faces from all over.

[QUOTE=DIRTYATL;401831]And I would still like to know the meaning behind all this "shut it down" business ....its a car show,  people come to look at cars or am I missing something?  People pack up n leave or something like that?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.vipstylecars.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=57[/url]
We were joking around cause the titles of the threads found here.


Only true VIP show in the states I know of is Black.  Even if its at a loss again this year, I picture it as possibly the US Version of Kbreak in the future.  GL with the show guys.

moving the show further south may not be such a bad idea in the future - we are going to make efforts to hit shows below va next year so we can shut shit down in the south

Liberty theme song

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3UD4ufklu4"][YOUTUBE]i3UD4ufklu4[/YOUTUBE][/URL]

:smiley-rofl:

i want to see a 2000 and 2001 gs and y33 win all 4 best infiniti/lexus categories. the year breakdown is not very well thought out.

DirtyATL, like JDOX said, most people out here never seen a vip car before so when we roll in deep, it makes a lasting impression.  Having the cars and crew that was the talk of the show is what its all about.  You can shut down parking lots, etc.  Its not to be taken too seriously


Thanks Speedaddict.  Thats the goal and now we landed a location that will let the show grow that big.  Its just a matter of getting it there.

And like mentioned, its all about enjoying the scene and meeting owners from all over the place.  It is going to feel like a meet and there are a few trophies that can be won by non show cars

[QUOTE=OG;401847]i want to see a 2000 and 2001 gs and y33 win all 4 best infiniti/lexus categories. the year breakdown is not very well thought out.[/QUOTE]

That was done on purpose. 10 years for each category.   There are about 30-40 vip styled 2gs' running around.  The 00+ Lexus would be weaker if 2GS' were not allowed in there.  Once the 3gs' UCF's30 UFC40's catch up in terms of mods and numbers, we will separate them.

Same with Infiniti's.  There really are not many modded Y33's that are 2000+ in this region at least.  So the few that are can make up for the lack of F50s and Y34's in the 2000+ Infiniti category

My math shows 90-99 as 10 years.

11 years each than lol

it was originally 90-99 but we changed it

that sucks...I'd have to compete with Cuban GS...or with Chris or Ty...

Its a lose lose situation

[QUOTE=speedaddict;401862]that sucks...I'd have to compete with Cuban GS...or with Chris or Ty...

Its a lose lose situation[/QUOTE]

Shit I'd be stuck with Jermaine ......


That a automatic L for me...unless his is a 01

Jermaine's is a '00.  I deal with that every show.  Always the bride's maid...never the bride.  Fuuuuu...  LOL!

[QUOTE=slvrstrk;401874]Jermaine's is a '00.  I deal with that every show.  Always the bride's maid...never the bride.  Fuuuuu...  LOL![/QUOTE]

Lol

Ima just make my own trophy... won by default for being the only 4 door car in my household.

I wish my car was ready for this....

My 4 door M's shutting down RE & liberty on my driveway... what!?!! I've no competition...

I'm looking forward to this show. I know my car isn't up to par but im still going to enter the show as i did last year cause the scene needs more support here on the east coast. I hope in the up coming years this is the show people look forward to attend and make the long drive. I've been to H2Oi and I've seen people make 24+ hour drives which is why i can really appreciate the EURO Scene. I'm just waiting till the VIP scene becomes that way :hsughcool:

My car's going HAM!!! But seriously tho, I recently try to order a hawaiian through papa johns website & you have to do pick the ingredients manuall cuz they only have "hawaiian chicken bbq" so I was looking everywhere for ham & couldnt find the checkbox so I called my local joint & they tell me that they call ham "Canadian bacon." :pat:

I would love to go to this to meet eveybody and kick it, long ass ride for me comin frm ft.laud, Atl is even far ridin on theses 30series tires, muchless Nj....

Nax......put that clean azz bish on the auto train in sanford FL.......i wish thay had one of those in the ATL

Date has been changed to Oct 1st.  All terms and conditions have been agreed upon, it is being held at Raceway Park in Englishtown NJ!!!

For those not on the north east, this is where the biggest car shows in the area are.  We look to make this the permanent home for the show.  If it is to grow to 4 or even 5 digits worth of cars, there would be room

The new date is huge because the old date landed on a major show H2O.  Now we are alright that its on Oct 1st.  Also gives people 1 more week of prep 

be sure to like our facebook fan page for updates and reminders leading up to the show
[url]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Black-2/145896352160043[/url]

maybe i should plane ticket it out there haha

[QUOTE=Kouki Monster;403450]maybe i should plane ticket it out there haha[/QUOTE]

If you need a place to stay let me know....(No HOMO) lol

[QUOTE=widebody_Q;403433]Date has been changed to Oct 1st.  All terms and conditions have been agreed upon, it is being held at Raceway Park in Englishtown NJ!!!

For those not on the north east, this is where the biggest car shows in the area are.  We look to make this the permanent home for the show.  If it is to grow to 4 or even 5 digits worth of cars, there would be room

The new date is huge because the old date landed on a major show H2O.  Now we are alright that its on Oct 1st.  Also gives people 1 more week of prep 

be sure to like our facebook fan page for updates and reminders leading up to the show
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Black-2/145896352160043[/URL][/QUOTE]

Sweet on the my birthday...even better reason to go...:biggthumpup:

HAHAHA good to know.

i'll definitely be there to support the VIP movement & liberty but i hope this show doesn't disappoint like last year. there was a lot of hype about Black last year and and a lot of talk about caravans from everywhere...but ended up being more like a liberty meet.
 
not to take anything away from you guys, i give props to liberty for organizing this event but just want to see more cars/people attend.

[QUOTE=Kouki Monster;403450]maybe i should plane ticket it out there haha[/QUOTE]

Go for it.  Its going to be a great time

[QUOTE=revtek_gs3;403819]i'll definitely be there to support the VIP movement & liberty but i hope this show doesn't disappoint like last year. there was a lot of hype about Black last year and and a lot of talk about caravans from everywhere...but ended up being more like a liberty meet.
 
not to take anything away from you guys, i give props to liberty for organizing this event but just want to see more cars/people attend.[/QUOTE]


Considering what was out there last year (25% compared to this year in both numbers and quality), the fact that it was a first year show, hard to find location and another major show the same date, the show was a huge success.  It was even covered in magazines including Import Tuner.

[IMG]http://libertyblack.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/blackmag1.png[/IMG]



It was a first time show with little prep time and was held in an unfamiliar location to most.  I still think we did great in terms of quality for what was out there last year.  Would we have liked more cars, yes but really what was out there then?  We just had to get the first one out of the way and it was important that we did it and not a corporation just looking to water it down too much

  This year people know its coming and they are waiting for it.  The fact that Raceway Park in Englishtown is letting me have it there means they know the potential and look at the first show as a success in terms of quality.  They see the crowds we bring in.  They dont allow anyone to have shows there, only Remix, HIN, Waterfest and shows they shows they throw.  

At the end of the day, its up to the people to come out and support.  We want to see everyone there car or no car and will keep working hard to fill up the lot

What  are the Canadian doing this year ??  
 
 
We need at least 2 cars from here to rep some maple power ..

Last year SKperformance came with his UCF20 from Canada.  Yudi, you should come down with Brett, Sharad and Aidan

[QUOTE=ViPCeo;401966]I would love to go to this to meet eveybody and kick it, long ass ride for me comin frm ft.laud, Atl is even far ridin on theses 30series tires, muchless Nj....[/QUOTE]
 
 
Ship your wheels and tires up and roll up on stocks. switchem when you get there. haha

[QUOTE=widebody_Q;403977]Go for it. Its going to be a great time
 
 
 
 
Considering what was out there last year (25% compared to this year in both numbers and quality), the fact that it was a first year show, hard to find location and another major show the same date, the show was a huge success. It was even covered in magazines including Import Tuner.
 
[IMG]http://libertyblack.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/blackmag1.png[/IMG]
 
 
 
It was a first time show with little prep time and was held in an unfamiliar location to most. I still think we did great in terms of quality for what was out there last year. Would we have liked more cars, yes but really what was out there then? We just had to get the first one out of the way and it was important that we did it and not a corporation just looking to water it down too much
 
This year people know its coming and they are waiting for it. The fact that Raceway Park in Englishtown is letting me have it there means they know the potential and look at the first show as a success in terms of quality. They see the crowds we bring in. They dont allow anyone to have shows there, only Remix, HIN, Waterfest and shows they shows they throw. 
 
At the end of the day, its up to the people to come out and support. We want to see everyone there car or no car and will keep working hard to fill up the lot[/QUOTE]
 
 
i'm not trying to criticize your efforts but in my opinion, it wasn't what i expected. If you read the article, it says "Liberty VIP car club meet" but it was suppose to be the first "all VIP car show." I was expecting more of a show, but it really was more like a Liberty meet. There was 2 parking lots...maybe a dozen cars in the back lot while mainly Liberty cars in the front lot. After a few hours, all the cars were consolidated to the front lot bc not many cars showed up. To me Black was on par with a Liberty bbq, actually you might have had more quality cars at the bbq. I know its more about quality then quantity but if you take away the Liberty cars...you're pretty much left with nothing. If I could compare Black 1 to VIP car show, it would be as if Platinum VIP threw a car show but only their cars show up...then call it a meet.
 
Again, i'm not trying to start sh*t...just calling it how i saw it.  i like what you guys are doing and not knocking you for it. The scene has grown on the east coast and the date & location is already out there, so i'm sure Black 2 will be more successful than the first...

interesting point, and i see it. Just like a lot of the 240 guys that had cars that were on point just happened to be apart of our crew. When anyone saw a fixed 240 in the area, they automatically assumed it was our crews car. And when we held meets there was 15 of us and 8 or more would show up. But, it is to be expected i think when a few cars look great, and adapt more to the crew and make great cars, or people who have a great car want someone to belong to will go to the peeps who have something established already. Especially when its only you, you cant start a one man band, it takes two to make a crew! haha

[QUOTE=revtek_gs3;404395]i'm not trying to criticize your efforts but in my opinion, it wasn't what i expected. If you read the article, it says "Liberty VIP car club meet" but it was suppose to be the first "all VIP car show." I was expecting more of a show, but it really was more like a Liberty meet. There was 2 parking lots...maybe a dozen cars in the back lot while mainly Liberty cars in the front lot. After a few hours, all the cars were consolidated to the front lot bc not many cars showed up. To me Black was on par with a Liberty bbq, actually you might have had more quality cars at the bbq. I know its more about quality then quantity but if you take away the Liberty cars...you're pretty much left with nothing. If I could compare Black 1 to VIP car show, it would be as if Platinum VIP threw a car show but only their cars show up...then call it a meet.
 
Again, i'm not trying to start sh*t...just calling it how i saw it.  i like what you guys are doing and not knocking you for it. The scene has grown on the east coast and the date & location is already out there, so i'm sure Black 2 will be more successful than the first...[/QUOTE]


That's definitely to be expected considering there aren't too many of these cars to begin with.  The east coast still has a LOT of catching up to do...and when it does, the show will grow.  It can't grow if it doesn't exist.

[QUOTE=revtek_gs3;403819]i'll definitely be there to support the VIP movement & liberty but i hope this show doesn't disappoint like last year. there was a lot of hype about Black last year and and a lot of talk about caravans from everywhere...but ended up being more like a liberty meet.
 
not to take anything away from you guys, i give props to liberty for organizing this event but just want to see more cars/people attend.[/QUOTE]
 
 
VIP is very slow to grow here on the East Coast.  I give Agi massive credit for trying to put a spotlight on a very small market.
 
Speaking of market space, maybe tap into the whole "stance" / "Canibeat" crowd to bolster attendance.  A true VIP platform show will be very hard to support here on the east, so I think opening it up a little will help.
 
Agi, let me know if you need help drawing some of the local clubs....SOLO, Emotion, etc.....  If things go the way I plan, I may have 3 or 4 of my cars there.....just gotta' get some drivers !!!!!  :giggity:

^^What's your 4th car?????

[QUOTE=slvrstrk;404588]^^What's your 4th car?????[/QUOTE]
 
 
Turbo charged Lexus IS300.....=)

What?  Who's did you buy? Marc's?  Congrats!

[QUOTE=slvrstrk;404593]What? Who's did you buy? Marc's? Congrats![/QUOTE]
 
 
No...it's my old Lex from way back in 2001......
 
[IMG]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/actolex/IS300%20Turbo/TurboCover.jpg[/IMG]
 
 
 
I stripped it down many years ago....now I'm trying to bring it back to life !!!!

VERY cool!

Leroy's IS is back? :runcoold:

[QUOTE=rodneyc77;404623]Leroy's IS is back? :runcoold:[/QUOTE]
 
 
LOL....I offered to sell it to him for cheap.....but he's keeping his IS.

mark... you had a car in hiding?  you sicko

[QUOTE=actolex;404587]VIP is very slow to grow here on the East Coast.  I give Agi massive credit for trying to put a spotlight on a very small market.
 
Speaking of market space, maybe tap into the whole "stance" / "Canibeat" crowd to bolster attendance.  A true VIP platform show will be very hard to support here on the east, so I think opening it up a little will help.
 
Agi, let me know if you need help drawing some of the local clubs....SOLO, Emotion, etc.....  If things go the way I plan, I may have 3 or 4 of my cars there.....just gotta' get some drivers !!!!!  :giggity:[/QUOTE]

Thanks I really appreciate it as well as the support last year by coming out.  Definitely let them know once the flier and site are up.


As for the Stance Scene, Canibeat has their own show which caters to that.  If its a "stanced" luxury car (or just modded), then it will be allowed into this show.  The show has to stand for something and differentiate its self from what is out there to make it long term.  After this show, many will shift their styling towards vip style if they were not already into it.  Should be a great opportunity for potential sponsors to tap into a large market.

There was lots that I learned from last year in terms of promotion.  Doing a first time show with no car on the flyer was a mistake IMO.  Then when the actual flyers came in, the quality looked like it was done at someones home.  This year, we are printing thousands of flyers not hundreds and we have a better "street team" to get it out there as well as the support of high end shops that deal with nice modded luxury cars on a regular basis.


Another plus is that we are able to cut our operating costs from last year while keeping the same high standard.  This means admission will be $15 lower than last year at $35 a car.  That should help.

geography is the enemy. we look at japanese shows but don't realize that every car in japan is contained within an area smaller than california. the double egded sword: people won't travel for a small event, and a small event won't get big unless people come out. support the vision not necesarilly the show. unfortunately i have deadlines that are very close to the date of black 2, but if i'm comfortable i will be flying out for this.
 
eventually i plan on doing something similar in tx, but it will have to wait until i can afford to lose money.

I hear that Mike... Hope you get comfy and make it to the show (no homo)