is Tubbing my only option? (slammed sc300)

slammed my SC300 and now the top on my tire keeps making serious contact with the fender well frame and the slightest dip or imperfection in the road really takes its toll. The top of my tire treads are getting shredded.

I cannot lower the car any more due to this. I have literally 1/2" clearance between my tread surface and the frame. 

Any suggestions?

small profile tire? need more information.... pictures, anything. I dont understand how your shredding tire, have you checked the inner well for exposed studs that would hold on fender liners?  Because rubbing in the rear wont shred if its tucking, something is protruding out, cutting into the tire.

[QUOTE=Mr.Doback;417478]small profile tire? need more information.... pictures, anything. I dont understand how your shredding tire, have you checked the inner well for exposed studs that would hold on fender liners?  Because rubbing in the rear wont shred if its tucking, something is protruding out, cutting into the tire.[/QUOTE]

no exposed studs..just an annoying section of sheet metal that protrudes downward and cuts unto my tire. i actually cut it out, and banged away at the sharp edges left with a hammer in hopes of flattening any sharp edges, but thats just not enough.

currently running 35 series on 19's.
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Suspension type?...Coiloivers? Firm it up.

Bilstein coilovers, but No damper adjustment, unfortunately.

new coils entirely with a spring rate over 20 will help..can you hammer it any flatter?  tub might is definitely the BEST option, but new coils might help.

wheel width & offset?

youre not even that low honestly, problem is your tires are way too big and it looks like they are hitting the actual fender

[QUOTE=Kohinoor;417591]wheel width & offset?[/QUOTE]

19x9.5 +20, but I don't see how that matters since tires aren't scrubbing fenders.

UOTE=BAHC;417546]new coils entirely with a spring rate over 20 will help..can you hammer it any flatter?  tub might is definitely the BEST option, but new coils might help.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. I've just about hammered the hell out of the entire fender well (with a focus on the upper frame), so don't think hammering with give me any more clearance. That's kinda why my next thought was tubbing them.

and new coilovers are in the near future,

[QUOTE=MDSC;417610]youre not even that low honestly, problem is your tires are way too big and it looks like they are hitting the actual fender[/QUOTE]


U think a 225/35 tire stretched on a 9.5 is "way too big"? There's only so much tire width I can sacrifice.

What size would u recommend then??( Keep in mind I'm driving 3500+lb car). If u don't really understand what I'm talking about, then please don't give input.

Go to a 30 series sidewall you'll gain an inch.

Also switch to real coils, any coilover that has no dampening adjustability is a joke.

But some stiff and switch to smaller tires.

yup, get some better coilovers. You can find something for about $1000 im guessing and sell your current set up to recoup some money. You can tub too. Im sure a muffler shop can cut it and bend a plate to weld in there. But Im sure if you do that, the subframe will be on the ground then you will need a skid plade and raised exhaust....Buy the coilovers and go from there.

pbm has some coils with dampening n they look kool haha. just ask for the supra ones they fit the SC. Friend just installed some not too long ago.

Running 30 series is trouble, you have a higher chance of messing up your wheels. I'd get better coils.

[QUOTE=knguyen;417801]Running 30 series is trouble, you have a higher chance of messing up your wheels. I'd get better coils.[/QUOTE]

^word.  and even then, i'm still considering tubbing the wells, bth.

true...I'm running 30 series.  Going to switch to 35 series.

[IMG]http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l141/LTWON1/221176_10150600517600052_580660051_18623635_6060330_o.jpg[/IMG] this is on BC coils with stock spring rates, and i could of gone lower then this just wasnt a big fan of scraping while turing.

This guy is on megan lps:shrug:[IMG]http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/camrazy/P7247041-1copy.jpg[/IMG]

Yup, BFG tires run fatter that most tires I've used, even with the same tire size.  Best bet is run a 235/35 on a different brand of tires, maybe nexxen or continental... definitely get a new set of coil overs..

oops nevermind i didnt realize it was you migs your ride is slammed! for some reason those first pics you posted werent that grereat. I say go with 18s man it should do it for you.

judging from the new pics you edited in, i dont think new coils will solve your problem

^ I'm with BAHC. The only way you can gain clearance is 30 series tires, tubbing, or notching the frame rail. 

Coilovers will not do anything, height is not the problem, its clearance. 

Time to go 18s.

pretty ballsy to drive that low. how do you even turn?

new coils + notching that section and having a plate welded in.

[QUOTE=Kohinoor;418286]pretty ballsy to drive that low. how do you even turn?[/QUOTE]

I have roughly 8mm of clearance between tire sidewall and fenders so no scrubbing whatsoever when I turn. Top of my tire tread occassionally rubs upper frame, that's about it. And that's what this thread is all about. Once I tub the fronts, I'll be good. I refuse to raise a car once I lower it. If I don't foresee a problem, I adjust to  the consequences and then address them accordingly .

Not sure if you are running 225/35/19 or 235/35/19

I ran 19x9.5 +2 on my SC400  with 225/35/19 Falken ST115 which are known to run small.  No problems but looks like you are lower.   I wonder if more neg camber would help.

Good luck with the tubbing


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tub it. not hard at all in the front.

yea shouldnt be hard. just have to move the harness on the drivers side. i need to notch my front so i can lay kit.

Definatley just need to Tub it, Luckily my LS400 doesnt have this problem but im probably just as low as you, I almost have this problem in the rear

yeah, i've been looking around for a shop to do the tubbing. 

its amazing that i cant find 1 shop in Central Florida willing to do it.

[QUOTE=NET;419021]yeah, i've been looking around for a shop to do the tubbing. 
 
its amazing that i cant find 1 shop in Central Florida willing to do it.[/QUOTE]
 
Yea thats kinda crazy, There is a place up here in NC that will do it, if your interested I can give you their info....they do top notch work

take it to a place that bags trucks.  They do tubbing all the time.

yep custom truck shop or hydraulics shop will do it

My buddy ran in to the same scenario. He was unable to run 19's and be slammed since he was hitting, so his choices were 19's with a lip kit or 18's slammed w/no lip kit. He wanted to be slammed w the stock body, so  he picked up a set of 18's instead. Like everyone said here, stiffer suspension or tubbing  would work too. Either way I cant wait how your set up turns out. Good luck :biggthumpup:

You need some 18's on there

[QUOTE=bluwagun;419429]My buddy ran in to the same scenario. He was unable to run 19's and be slammed since he was hitting, so his choices were 19's with a lip kit or 18's slammed w/no lip kit. He wanted to be slammed w the stock body, so  he picked up a set of 18's instead. Like everyone said here, stiffer suspension or tubbing  would work too. Either way I cant wait how your set up turns out. Good luck :biggthumpup:[/QUOTE]

thanks. and yeah, i dont really like the aftermarket body kits for this car, so all i did was add oem 97+ side skirts and will soon be adding an oem '97 rear bumper wich is a bit lower. its def gonna be stock body on 18's.

here's a current pic with the front fenders on, just for the hell of it..
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[QUOTE=phillygs3;419451]You need some 18's on there[/QUOTE]

yeah, i pretty much decided on that. 
I had 18's previously, but wanted to try 19's. definitely tubbing and going back to 18's with dish this time.

[QUOTE=NET;419021]yeah, i've been looking around for a shop to do the tubbing. 

its amazing that i cant find 1 shop in Central Florida willing to do it.[/QUOTE]

Bring your car down here. My boy in Miami can knock that out ASAP the night before the BBQ in Key Biscayne. 

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Your ride looks hard in the picture, to bad your not able to roll like that on a daily :sad: or can you :shrug:?

[QUOTE=bluwagun;419853]Your ride looks hard in the picture, to bad your not able to roll like that on a daily :sad: or can you :shrug:?[/QUOTE]

This is my daily.

[QUOTE=SinisterSC;419661]Bring your car down here. My boy in Miami can knock that out ASAP the night before the BBQ in Key Biscayne. 

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