hmm, hybrid huh
I wonder how it rides. Do you deflate like a cup kit and ride on coil. I would assume not since that is pushing the shock in quite a bit. I would assume its at full, and low, and full slammed park option. or?
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I wonder how it rides. Do you deflate like a cup kit and ride on coil. I would assume not since that is pushing the shock in quite a bit. I would assume its at full, and low, and full slammed park option. or?
Yeah I've seen that one earlier, but too bad that couldn't gather any details 'cuz I couldn't translate it. Someone who's done that?
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Yeah I've seen that one earlier, but too bad that couldn't gather any details 'cuz I couldn't translate it. Someone who's done that?
It's taken from Universal Air Japan website.
http://www.universalair-jp.com
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It's taken from Universal Air Japan website.
[url]http://www.universalair-jp.com[/url]
O yea I remember reading that! Now gs owner can rub bags while on coils lol
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O yea I remember reading that! Now gs owner can rub bags while on coils lol
too bad we cant read japanese... its probably tellin us all the answers to the questions we have lol
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too bad we cant read japanese... its probably tellin us all the answers to the questions we have lol
reminds me of Tanabe's old Air Cobra

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reminds me of Tanabe's old Air Cobra
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limited applications so far:

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limited applications so far:
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Curious how use it. Drive with bag full inflate I assume
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Curious how use it. Drive with bag full inflate I assume
this setup isn't really new. tanabe did it, bold world did it, that company that made the cheap cups did it (name escapes me).
here's my issue(s). i'm assuming it must be driven inflated because that's a lot of suspension travel to lose. above the breaking point (where psi > spring rate) you'll be using more spring than bag, then you'll go through a range where you're riding on low psi until completely empty, at which point the spring will take back over; but by that time the shock will probably be bottomed out. the spring rate is going to be variable which means proper valving will be impossible. they have also eliminated the feature of independant height/preload adjustment. i dunno... imo adding the spring does more harm than good vs the traditional uas setup. that's just what i see when i look at it quickly. i may be missing something,
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this setup isn't really new. tanabe did it, bold world did it, that company that made the cheap cups did it (name escapes me).
here's my issue(s). i'm assuming it must be driven inflated because that's a lot of suspension travel to lose. above the breaking point (where psi > spring rate) you'll be using more spring than bag, then you'll go through a range where you're riding on low psi until completely empty, at which point the spring will take back over; but by that time the shock will probably be bottomed out. the spring rate is going to be variable which means proper valving will be impossible. they have also eliminated the feature of independant height/preload adjustment. i dunno... imo adding the spring does more harm than good vs the traditional uas setup. that's just what i see when i look at it quickly. i may be missing something,
AirREX has tried it on a porshe.. and scrapped it.. problem is the bag will slide up and down on the shaft because the spring is on the bottom and the lower mount of the bag isnt stationary like your normal set ups. As you know all thats sealing the bags on the shaft is o rings.. the orings wear out and leaks..
The other issue is you dont get much lift
I saw the UAS system in Japan and like the idea but there system will only work on certain cars.

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AirREX has tried it on a porshe.. and scrapped it.. problem is the bag will slide up and down on the shaft because the spring is on the bottom and the lower mount of the bag isnt stationary like your normal set ups. As you know all thats sealing the bags on the shaft is o rings.. the orings wear out and leaks..
The other issue is you dont get much lift
I saw the UAS system in Japan and like the idea but there system will only work on certain cars.
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OG;451995 wrote:this setup isn't really new. tanabe did it, bold world did it, that company that made the cheap cups did it (name escapes me).
here's my issue(s). i'm assuming it must be driven inflated because that's a lot of suspension travel to lose. above the breaking point (where psi > spring rate) you'll be using more spring than bag, then you'll go through a range where you're riding on low psi until completely empty, at which point the spring will take back over; but by that time the shock will probably be bottomed out. the spring rate is going to be variable which means proper valving will be impossible. they have also eliminated the feature of independant height/preload adjustment. i dunno... imo adding the spring does more harm than good vs the traditional uas setup. that's just what i see when i look at it quickly. i may be missing something,
Exactly what I was thinking about it.. Hence the "hmm" haha
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[QUOTE=OG;451995]this setup isn't really new. tanabe did it, bold world did it, that company that made the cheap cups did it (name escapes me).
here's my issue(s). i'm assuming it must be driven inflated because that's a lot of suspension travel to lose. above the breaking point (where psi > spring rate) you'll be using more spring than bag, then you'll go through a range where you're riding on low psi until completely empty, at which point the spring will take back over; but by that time the shock will probably be bottomed out. the spring rate is going to be variable which means proper valving will be impossible. they have also eliminated the feature of independant height/preload adjustment. i dunno... imo adding the spring does more harm than good vs the traditional uas setup. that's just what i see when i look at it quickly. i may be missing something,[/QUOTE]
Exactly what I was thinking about it.. Hence the "hmm" haha
eight08customs;451998 wrote:AirREX has tried it on a porshe.. and scrapped it.. problem is the bag will slide up and down on the shaft because the spring is on the bottom and the lower mount of the bag isnt stationary like your normal set ups. As you know all thats sealing the bags on the shaft is o rings.. the orings wear out and leaks..
The other issue is you dont get much lift
I saw the UAS system in Japan and like the idea but there system will only work on certain cars.

i don't think the seals would be an issue on the uas setup since the bags are sleeved and sealed independently of the strut.
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[QUOTE=eight08customs;451998]AirREX has tried it on a porshe.. and scrapped it.. problem is the bag will slide up and down on the shaft because the spring is on the bottom and the lower mount of the bag isnt stationary like your normal set ups. As you know all thats sealing the bags on the shaft is o rings.. the orings wear out and leaks..
The other issue is you dont get much lift
I saw the UAS system in Japan and like the idea but there system will only work on certain cars.
[IMG]https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/315582_308994619113630_245936528752773_1437206_939780909_n.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
i don't think the seals would be an issue on the uas setup since the bags are sleeved and sealed independently of the strut.