The stretch on stretching

How many of you guys that stretch "to accomplish what you need" have ever had a blow out cause of the stretch?

[QUOTE=1_VIPd_LS;60219]How many of you guys that stretch "to accomplish what you need" have ever had a blow out cause of the stretch?[/QUOTE]

stretching tires for a purpose, yes.

blow out because of the stretch?

not sure.

but, one night, i blew the bead while hitting the dump switches while taking a hard turn with a car full of people...

tire separated from the rim, pic the next morning:
[img]http://www.angrylife.com/temp/beadpop_01.jpg[/img]

new tires before the end of the day:
[img]http://www.angrylife.com/temp/beadpop_02.jpg[/img]

good times.

haha ur a brave man..thats some crazy stretch!

Stretch to get max clearance?  Yes.  Im always pushing the limits to go down one size to get a better clearance.

Ive been through about 10 tires this year.  I have recipts to prove it.  Ive had sidewalls burst and lost the beeds a few times.  Its not fun but I love the look.


Nice stretch BTW.  Whats the brand and size and the size of the wheel its mounted on?

The tires are Yokohama ES100's sizing he'll have to tell you.

how do you mount the bead from the tire to the rim on that much of a stretch?? is there a special way to mount the tires??

Ive probably mounted at least 100 tires and I am wondering that as well. I guess a big tie strap would help.

rope/strap helps, soaking the tires in the sun, the construction of the tire is also a factor

Ive seen them use a beedblaster to get it to set in.  I also seen someone do it without the beed blaster but they used like 100 psi to get the tire on the wheel.

[QUOTE]the construction of the tire is also a factor[/QUOTE]

This is also true.  Some tires stretch more then others.

There's a bead sealer called the Cheetah that will shoot out 150+ psi of air.  Aim the mouth down the barrel where the bead is, release the valve and the bead will seal.

[quote=viplife;60233]
but, one night, i blew the bead while hitting the dump switches while taking a hard turn with a car full of people...[/quote]
 
 
damn!

Theres also the ether method. A couple sprays in the tire, and toss a match at it. :)

i guess es100 sidewall is pretty stiff

that nga VIPLIFE is one crazi mutha.... :thumbup:

[QUOTE=widebody_Q;60249]Nice stretch BTW.  Whats the brand and size and the size of the wheel its mounted on?[/QUOTE]

before: 18x13 with 275/35/18 trampo
after: 18x13 with 275/35/18 yokohama

mounting: cheetah is ok for mild stretch.  try straps, or have your friend hercules "bear hug" the tire to inflate a good stretch.  if you have trouble getting the sidewalls to reach the barrel's edge, try over inflating, until its there, then back out the pressure.  there are tons of discussions on getting stretched tires to bead on the forum.  also remember these are all very dangerous techniques, which i do not condone.

[QUOTE]mounting: cheetah is ok for mild stretch. try straps, or have your friend hercules "bear hug" the tire to inflate a good stretch. if you have trouble getting the sidewalls to reach the barrel's edge, try over inflating, until its there, then back out the pressure. there are tons of discussions on getting stretched tires to bead on the forum. also remember these are all very dangerous techniques, which i do not condone.[/QUOTE]

Good info.  I might have to check out Yokohama next time I blow a tire.:dance:

Thanks for the input guys.

[QUOTE=viplife;60233]but, one night, i blew the bead while hitting the dump switches while taking a hard turn with a car full of people...


good times.[/QUOTE]

You forgot to add "in the rain" and "over some stutterbumps under a railroad overpass"....
good times

I remember posting this before somewhere?  You don't need any real special tools to get it to mount.  Some people say more air pressure.  The trick is actually not in the air pressure. It's actually in setting up the tire on the wheel for air. You need to make sure the entire diameter of the tire is in the drop, but more importantly that the entire inner section is goo'ed up. Even at lower pressure it'll bead. I've done 195's on 9's for a few 86 guys. Items like bead blasters are only needed for ATV and sand rail tires really. That or use a "rubber band" as they are often called to bead it. That keeps the pressure on the bead while it inflates and stretches out. The "rubber band" will then pop off as the tire beads.  I mean it was pretty rare when I had to use a rubber band or tie-strap.

[QUOTE]I remember posting this before somewhere? You don't need any real special tools to get it to mount. Some people say more air pressure. The trick is actually not in the air pressure. It's actually in setting up the tire on the wheel for air. You need to make sure the entire diameter of the tire is in the drop, but more importantly that the entire inner section is goo'ed up. Even at lower pressure it'll bead. I've done 195's on 9's for a few 86 guys. Items like bead blasters are only needed for ATV and sand rail tires really. That or use a "rubber band" as they are often called to bead it. That keeps the pressure on the bead while it inflates and stretches out. The "rubber band" will then pop off as the tire beads. I mean it was pretty rare when I had to use a rubber band or tie-strap.
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You did suggest this to me at one point.  Most shops I went to used a beadblaster.  When I suggested what you said they either said "no speak english" or they were not able to get the tire to bead without the beadblaster.

I wish there was an instructional video showing mounting of different stretched tires and mounting techniques from mild to wild.

[QUOTE=NJ240sxMan;61021]I wish there was an instructional video showing mounting of different stretched tires and mounting techniques from mild to wild.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=ld5h2LifTz4[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xwfDEtk-R8&NR=1[/url]

WoW!!

Thats good stuff..LOL..

Hey thanks for posting that second one. Hadnt seen it before.

working with a brand new tire is easier than a used one.. at work we use straps, the clamps on the machine, let the tire sit out in the sun til the rubber comes soft, even use the tire lube to help seal.. we used the cheater a few tires, mostly for bigfoot tires, swampers. we never used it for a low pro/stretched tire, yet. usually i do the stretched tires at work. when the tech comes around he dont usually car if things get scratched so i try not to let him help out... 

i got a used 215/35/19 at home, im trying to get my hands on a 19x10 rim so i can try if out for ****s and giggles... whenever a stretched set comes in, ill try to take some pics of the process...

[QUOTE=mista808;61268]working with a brand new tire is easier than a used one.. at work we use straps, the clamps on the machine, let the tire sit out in the sun til the rubber comes soft, even use the tire lube to help seal.. we used the cheater a few tires, mostly for bigfoot tires, swampers. we never used it for a low pro/stretched tire, yet. usually i do the stretched tires at work. when the tech comes around he dont usually car if things get scratched so i try not to let him help out... 

i got a used 215/35/19 at home, im trying to get my hands on a 19x10 rim so i can try if out for ****s and giggles... whenever a stretched set comes in, ill try to take some pics of the process...[/QUOTE]

i put some used 215/35/19's on a 9.5 that went on w/out any issues.

so if you use the ether method u can mount ur tires at home and just have them balanced at the shop?

*THIS METHOD IS [B]NOT[/B] SAFE*

It's okay to show a video, but someone could get seriously hurt trying to do that.  There's several things that could go wrong.  This is one of those "don't try this at home kids" things.

Wait whats one of the reasons?

[QUOTE=excluesiveonez;61654]so if you use the ether method u can mount ur tires at home and just have them balanced at the shop?[/QUOTE]

good luck trying to take off/put on the tire without damaging the rim first... especially low pros, you mos def need a tire mounting machine...

[QUOTE=elpresidente;61699]*THIS METHOD IS [B]NOT[/B] SAFE*

It's okay to show a video, but someone could get seriously hurt trying to do that.  There's several things that could go wrong.  This is one of those "don't try this at home kids" things.[/QUOTE]

funny you mention that. not too long a go we had a guy come in with some dune buggy tires and rims. we tried EVERYTHING to sit the bead on them. tried different methods with the cheatah, finally we used the cheater one last time, cheatah flipped around in the air over the techs head, the nozzle end cut the tech just a few milimeters from his eye, a good 1" gash. something like a boxer would get with a good shot to the eye. blood evreywhere.

the owner of the rim/tire was right there watching and didnt say sorry or anything to him. oh well, his rims were damaged anyway and wouldnt hold air in the end.

What did the first guy spray into the tire?  

Some kind of aerosol evidently, but that would not work on a very aggressive stretch, am I right?