Stretching: 18" 35 series???

Ok, so I know most 19" tires end up being 35 series, but most 18s are 40 series.  Right now I'm running a 225/40 on an 18x9 and a 235/40 on an 18x10.  In light of recent posts and pics, I want to go lower, but I can't with the current tire sizing.  I know I will need at least a 215 up front, and POSSIBLY a 225 out back.  I noticed there are some tires out there in a 215/35/18.  Does anyone HAPPEN to have a pic of one on an 18x9 by some miraculous chance?  I'm worried about how much stretch/how short this will be.  I guess if I do a 215/35 up front, I will definitely want to do at least a 225/40 if not a 225/35 out back on the 10 too though.  Ugh.  Any input on this at all guys???  Thanks.

I would do 215/40/18 for the front and 225/40/18 for the rear.  Here is something to sorta judge by.  Ive got 17's and the front are 17x9 with a 205 and  the rear is a 17x10 with a 215.
[url]http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/MattyRattyPoo/Wheelfitment6.jpg[/url]

Yeah, my thinking with the 215/35 is it would be shorter.  My problem now, the reason I can't go lower, is because the tire is rubbing the underside of the strut tower.  Not really something I can beat out of the way...

[QUOTE=upSLIDEdown;61361]Does anyone HAPPEN to have a pic of one on an 18x9 by some miraculous chance?[/QUOTE]

for those of you who are sick of seeing this picture, i apologize.  i will admit it is probably the MOST posted picture ive ever taken.  more than 3 years later, who ever would have known it would be a miracle?

[img]http://www.angrylife.com/temp/215_35_18_on_9J.jpg[/img]

40 series belong on 17s : )

Hmmm, that's not so bad.  What tire is that?  That's exactly my dillemma.  This is on an S-chassis too.  I'm rubbing the underside of the strut tower in the turns but I want to be lower.  How was rubbing on that car?

[QUOTE=upSLIDEdown;61436]Hmmm, that's not so bad.  What tire is that?  That's exactly my dillemma.  This is on an S-chassis too.  I'm rubbing the underside of the strut tower in the turns but I want to be lower.  How was rubbing on that car?[/QUOTE]

yokohama prada spec-2

in all honesty, this tire doesn't look stretched, but ive got around 15 degrees of negative camber [to fit under the stock fender], and it's pretty hairy.  i have very little contact patch with the tires straight, and you can only imagine what the opposite tire looks like when im at lock.

it drives fine, long distances, no problem.  tire wear, is good, for the configuration.  the car is even lower now, than in the picture above.  traction is good for non-competitive drifting.  if you are willing to run some risk [blow out, or dent a rim] to get additional clearance, by all means do it.

you will need to modify your inner fenders if you plan on running anything larger than a 17" diameter.  this can be accomplished in a number of ways.  and if you really start to get low, you will have bigger problems than the inner fender rubbing your tire...

hope this helps...  now buy a vip car!

[QUOTE=viplife;61446]yokohama prada spec-2

in all honesty, this tire doesn't look stretched, but ive got around 15 degrees of negative camber [to fit under the stock fender], and it's pretty hairy.  i have very little contact patch with the tires straight, and you can only imagine what the opposite tire looks like when im at lock.

it drives fine, long distances, no problem.  tire wear, is good, for the configuration.  the car is even lower now, than in the picture above.  traction is good for non-competitive drifting.  if you are willing to run some risk [blow out, or dent a rim] to get additional clearance, by all means do it.

you will need to modify your inner fenders if you plan on running anything larger than a 17" diameter.  this can be accomplished in a number of ways.  and if you really start to get low, you will have bigger problems than the inner fender rubbing your tire...

hope this helps...  now buy a vip car![/QUOTE]

How in the hell are you running 15* of camber???  What size/offset is that?  I'm running a 9 +5 with a 225/40.   The innerfencers are beaten/clearanced, the harness is through the engine bay, and the firewall was beaten back and redone where the harness goes through.  My only problem now is directly over the tire.  I'm rubbing the underside of the strut tower, mainly on the front edge of it.  Have you ever lost a bead with the 215/35 on the 9?  Maybe I should do a 215/40.  This car is a daily driver/fun in the mountain's car.  I want it lower, however, I refuse to give up my driving style (pretty aggressive) which means I need a smaller tire.  What "other problems" will I run into?

[QUOTE=upSLIDEdown;61452]How in the hell are you running 15* of camber???[/QUOTE]

i modified the suspension

[QUOTE=upSLIDEdown;61452]What size/offset is that?[/QUOTE]

18x9-9

[QUOTE=upSLIDEdown;61452]I'm running a 9 +5 with a 225/40.   The innerfencers are beaten/clearanced, the harness is through the engine bay, and the firewall was beaten back and redone where the harness goes through.  My only problem now is directly over the tire.  I'm rubbing the underside of the strut tower, mainly on the front edge of it.  Maybe I should do a 215/40.  This car is a daily driver/fun in the mountain's car.  I want it lower, however, I refuse to give up my driving style (pretty aggressive) which means I need a smaller tire.[/QUOTE]

when i read this, i thought of something ive seen on other "drifting" forums years ago.  the obvious solution to interference is to change either the cause or the effect.  while i think a lot of people have the experience and knowledge to help you solve your platform specific performance issues, this type of discussion is probably better off in the off-topic forum.

however i think its still got a bit of value left for the vip audience...

running a larger wheel in the fender well will always require MORE clearance than before when driving.  while your problem is the tire contacting the fender or chassis while braking or shifting weight, vip cars have similar problems.  its one thing to chase being the lowest when you empty the pressure in your air system, but its a completely different ball game when you want to drive at that same height on air, or with coilovers.  always take into consideration the amount of suspension travel you require when measuring and planning your stance.  measure, and realize that if the car is very low at parked height [being the same as ride height], if your suspension is to function, it will need to go someplace.  yes, it needs to travel.  travel higher into the wheel well.  failing to plan, often results in a plan to fail.

[QUOTE=upSLIDEdown;61452]I refuse to give up my driving style (pretty aggressive) which means I need a smaller tire.[/QUOTE]

im surely not aggressive now days, but when this car used to roam the streets, i never had any issues.  not sure if this is aggressive

[img]http://www.angrylife.com/temp/old.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=upSLIDEdown;61452]Have you ever lost a bead with the 215/35 on the 9?[/QUOTE]

no

[QUOTE=upSLIDEdown;61452]What "other problems" will I run into?[/QUOTE]

under carriage touching the ground, would be a good starter.

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so back on track...

running a 35 series tire on an 18" rim is not an issue.  if your large 4-door car has a moderate drop and you have some fender gap, then i would recommend using a 40 series tire to visually fill the wheel well, >and< preserve as much of the ride quality as possible with such a large diameter wheel.

dont forget stretching the tire introduces many risks.  less tire on the wheel means there is less to absorb road debris, and less "padding" between your expensive rims, and the eager to cause damage, road.

good luck.

Feel free to move this to OT if you see fit, esp if we're going to get more into s-chassis stuff, which I know everyone is tired of lately.  I was kinda hoping Van would chime in too...

So you weren't/aren't rubbing directly on top of the tire on the "fender framerail" or whatever you want to call it?  Basically, directly underneath the strut tower.

yo im wondering bout this too, im getting some 18x8 rims but i wanted some 215/35 series joints, but guy was like it'll stretch. i have a small sedan and i want to max out da rim size on em  wit da deep dish ya dig...