are Work multi-piece wheels forged ?

in particular their 2 piece euroline DH wheel.

what are their build characteristics? 

I noticed how super light they are in comparison to my 19" Carlsson 1 piece cast wheel. In fact these work euroline DH wheels feel as light as alot of 17" oem wheels.

I believe they're spun cast.

[quote=BR1AN ]
I beleive they're spun cast.
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would that mean you have to heat the whole wheel up to remove the center??

Not sure since I have yet to take apart my wheels.

[quote=CarlssonRL ]
in particular their 2 piece euroline DH wheel.
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Isnt it really a 1 piece since you cant take it apart............

It All depends on the style, they do have true 3 pcs wheels (VS) and they also have 2 pcs wheels like Euroline DH with fake bolt so I guess you can call them one pcs since the center is not comming out !! 

Euroline's are a 2 piece WELD
and VS-XX are a 3 piece wheel..
thats why theres such a price difference...

so why do they even bother making it a 2 piece if they are gonna weld it ?



[quote=vipguy ]
Euroline's are a 2 piece WELD
and VS-XX are a 3 piece wheel..
thats why theres such a price difference...
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[quote=CarlssonRL ]
so why do they even bother making it a 2 piece if they are gonna weld it ?



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to make them in many offsets, face finishes, disks(A-O-R-D) and lug patterrns, mainly for the offsets

you can tell by looking at the backside of the wheel. If its smooth then its forged, if its rough then it's cast. 

so the 2 piece is basically for the benefit of the manufacturer and in no way benefits the consumer ?

[quote=OnTop ]
to make them in many offsets, face finishes, disks(A-O-R-D) and lug patterrns, mainly for the offsets
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[quote=CarlssonRL ]
so the 2 piece is basically for the benefit of the manufacturer and in no way benefits the consumer ?

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by being able to offer the wheel in many different offsets, disks (a-o-r-d/low-med-high), face finishes, and lug patterns, the consumer directly benefits because the consumer can get the wheel they want. contrast that with standard "cookie cutter" wheels that are generally only available in 2 lug patterns and one offset.

but the two piece configuration doesn't strenghten the wheel in any way ?

[quote=uncle_el ]
by being able to offer the wheel in many different offsets, disks (a-o-r-d/low-med-high), face finishes, and lug patterns, the consumer directly benefits because the consumer can get the wheel they want. contrast that with standard "cookie cutter" wheels that are generally only available in 2 lug patterns and one offset.
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[quote=CarlssonRL ]
but the two piece configuration doesn't strenghten the wheel in any way ?

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well as far as strength is concerned id like to think of as stronger than a one-piece and some-what inferior to a 3-piece. but if you really want to ''split some atoms'' all wheels have a MAX weight rating. i have 18''FS's and one friend of mine has 18''DH's, another had 17''N's and they were all different. i dont know the exact XXXkgs, the 17 is a given but they were all different. 

multi-piece wheels, whether 2- or 3-piece, and whether bolted or welded together, offer people the option of fitment availability. 2 piece welded wheels have the most flexibility, because you can set the centers to within the 1mm offset, before they are welded in place. There is no real disadvantage to the center being welded... majority of wheels out there have welded centers, including stock steelies. 

what about if I wanted to change my 19 x 8 via 45 offset wheel to a 19 x 10 and change the offset to 30 ? Can I "un-weld" the face and re-weld it to a new rim (outer ring) ?

[quote=One Ton VIP ]
multi-piece wheels, whether 2- or 3-piece, and whether bolted or welded together, offer people the option of fitment availability. 2 piece welded wheels have the most flexibility, because you can set the centers to within the 1mm offset, before they are welded in place. There is no real disadvantage to the center being welded... majority of wheels out there have welded centers, including stock steelies. 
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[quote=CarlssonRL ]
what about if I wanted to change my 19 x 8 via 45 offset wheel to a 19 x 10 and change the offset to 30 ? Can I "un-weld" the face and re-weld it to a new  rim (outer ring) ?

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I wouldn't recommend it. As a matter of fact, I tried to ask Work and PIAA about replacing a scratched lip (damn anodizing...can't polish out scratches) but both said it should not be done. Not saying it's impossible, but I could not find anyone to actually do the work.

so basically the welded "two piece" is useless for the end user since we can't dis-assemble it in case of repair or fittment changes. 



it's more of a advantage for the manufacturer, not the end user.



[quote=actolex ]

I wouldn't recommend it. As a matter of fact, I tried to ask Work and PIAA about replacing a scratched lip (damn anodizing...can't polish out scratches) but both said it should not be done. Not saying it's impossible, but I could not find anyone to actually do the work.
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[quote=CarlssonRL ]
what about if I wanted to change my 19 x 8 via 45 offset wheel to a 19 x 10 and change the offset to 30 ? Can I "un-weld" the face and re-weld it to a new  rim (outer ring) ?

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Nope, because once welded, they are like a 1-piece wheel. Again, the advantage to their 2-piece construction is the fact that you can order them new in any offset you want in the first place. If you want post-sale fitment adjustability your only real choice is to get a bolted-together 2- or 3-piece wheel, and hope that you can source the different sized barrels from the manufacturer. If you want to get technical, it IS possible to unweld a center, reposition it in a new hoop, and then reweld it in place, but it's not a good idea for a few reasons... after cutting it out of the first wheel assy, you are left with a center whose perimeter is smaller than optimal, and thus it will not fit as well inside a new hoop as if it had not been welded before... and more importantly, the first round of welding has already heated the metal, so it's not too good an idea to do that again

[quote=CarlssonRL ]
so basically the welded  "two piece" is useless for the end user since we can't dis-assemble it in case of repair or fittment changes. 



it's more of a advantage for the manufacturer, not the end user.



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No you need to put aside your unfounded fears and hatred of the 2-piece welded wheel and realize that it offers you-the end user-the advantage of choosing wheels in a LARGER VARIETY of offsets and disks than a 1-pc wheel, at a MUCH lower price than a 3-pc wheel. If your sole concern is after-the-fact adjustability and repair, then you must REALLY hate 1-pc wheels, cuz those are infinitely harder to perform the latter, and a lost cause for the former...

[quote=CarlssonRL ]
what about if I wanted to change my 19 x 8 via 45 offset wheel to a 19 x 10 and change the offset to 30 ? Can I "un-weld" the face and re-weld it to a new  rim (outer ring) ?

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sorry buddy, to weld a rim requires serious consistancy, skill, and equipment. if you want an offset change spacers are your only options aside from finding the wheelset that you really want

Well, I would not suggest this to anyone but it has been done, ................................ just for fun and try my welding skills  :crazy2: :idiot2::uglystupid2:

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v363/boxybox/innerwheel.jpg[/img]

Wow, a good idea for fun and practice... but probably not a good idea for wheels that will actually be used, especially since you have to be wary of possible pinhole leaks leading to air leakage out of the tires, and also gotta consider that manufacturers usually use rotary fixtures and robotic welders that lay 100% consistent, *non-stop* weld beads all the way around, AND they still machine out warpage/run-out afterwards. 

I know Van, and you are correct !! 
As I said this is just for fun and see if I can weld them without any leaks !!