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Megan Racing S14 springs with a 2 inch drop. [img]http://www.portal.conceptual-x.com/andy/q45/IMG_0562.JPG[/img] [img]http://www.portal.conceptual-x.com/andy/q45/IMG_0564.JPG[/img] [img]http://www.portal.conceptual-x.com/andy/q45/IMG_0567.JPG[/img]
NICE!!!!! Not bad for springs! hahaha! My brother C4president is getting Espiller springs and we're hoping his looks close to that!
That looks really good, but how much shock travel do you have left, if any?
nice!, that thing sits pretty low for springs, are those wheels polished???
nizzan4u2nv;66517 wrote:That looks really good, but how much shock travel do you have left, if any?
AcUrALiTy;66551 wrote:nice!, that thing sits pretty low for springs, are those wheels polished???
Thanks everyone for the comments. Just looking to buy some RUCA's and Wheels very soon to complete the look... Oh and of course some tint and curtains ;). [QUOTE=nizzan4u2nv;66517]That looks really good, but how much shock travel do you have left, if any?[/QUOTE] To be honest, I really haven't a clue.. BUT I can say that I have hit the bump stops a couple times going over big dips in the road. No loud clunking, no strange noises, and to be honest.. It's nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be :). [QUOTE=AcUrALiTy;66551]nice!, that thing sits pretty low for springs, are those wheels polished???[/QUOTE] They're the stock Touring model wheels AFAIK.. I jus keep 'em clean ;)
Your car looks good. I was really close to buying some megan springs but decided to go a diferent route. Check your pm.
That is a really nice drop for springs car is exceptionally clean too...very nice.
Wow,that's a nice drop.I didn't think the 240sx-s14 springs would fit and work on a bigger car,nice work.
i'm thinking thats one of the best choices in s14 springs on a y33 because the megans spring rate is quite stiff compared to the other springs out there except for the rsr race springs... are you tucking front tire??? :D ehehe not bad not bad
im just curious but is this safe? does the car still retains the smooth ride? because this looks like an option for me instead of teins.
carnal_c30;67543 wrote:i'm thinking thats one of the best choices in s14 springs on a y33 because the megans spring rate is quite stiff compared to the other springs out there except for the rsr race springs...
are you tucking front tire??? :D ehehe not bad not bad
im just curious but is this safe? does the car still retains the smooth ride? because this looks like an option for me instead of teins.
[QUOTE=carnal_c30;67543]i'm thinking thats one of the best choices in s14 springs on a y33 because the megans spring rate is quite stiff compared to the other springs out there except for the rsr race springs... are you tucking front tire??? :D ehehe not bad not bad[/QUOTE] That's exactly why I went with megans.. I knew if I wanted to drop the car I had to do my research and find the stiffest ones. Best part is.. I paid $132 SHIPPED for the springs, what a steal. [quote]im just curious but is this safe? does the car still retains the smooth ride? because this looks like an option for me instead of teins.[/quote] Sure it's safe as long as you do it correctly. As far as the smoothness, you're always going to sacrifice ride quality when lowering any car, especially with springs and stock struts. Once the stock struts blow I do plan on putting them to some testing and rebuilding them with thicker oils to experiment. I'm doubtful it will do anything, but it's worth a shot.. right? But to answer your question, ride quality with these springs and stock struts.. all around, 6 out of 10.
i just ordered TEIN springs for my Q45 (y33), but they are actually for NISSAN CIMA Y33. At first i was going to try S14, but i had my friend ordered them for me from japan instead, i guess i have to wait longer than you guys who are using S14 springs hahaha . . neways nice car man . .
anyone used the rsr s14 springs on the y33?
the regular rsr springs are soft and the rsr race springs (my mistake) are still not as stiff as the meagans only thing is the rsr springs drop the car less if you think the meagans are too extreme I would like to know if 86gts are scraping his cats or anything else at that height, or if he's high sided yet =p
carnal_c30;67948 wrote:the regular rsr springs are soft and the rsr race springs (my mistake) are still not as stiff as the meagans
only thing is the rsr springs drop the car less if you think the meagans are too extreme
I would like to know if 86gts are scraping his cats or anything else at that height, or if he's high sided yet =p
[QUOTE=carnal_c30;67948]the regular rsr springs are soft and the rsr race springs (my mistake) are still not as stiff as the meagans only thing is the rsr springs drop the car less if you think the meagans are too extreme I would like to know if 86gts are scraping his cats or anything else at that height, or if he's high sided yet =p[/QUOTE] Only scraped the heat shield EVER so slightly going over a speed bump once.. other than that.. haven't had problems yet :) I've gone to the dark side.. and will never return to stock
im really intrigued. you got any more pics eightsixgts?
I'll get some new pics soon, I'm waiting on a bunch of JP stuff to get to me that way I can show it all off :)
could these springs also be used on the g50?
hey mann what di you do to make the fronts work ,because they don't work on the front struts .
no but i bet r32 or z32 springs will fit on the g50
hey,i have tried it on my y33 and the fronts don't work,unless they misboxed them , let me see your setup.
call looks great. hey if anyone wants a pair of megan s14 rear springs, i have pair of rear ones i think. Were are you located in ohio?
mk3 cressida;87521 wrote:hey mann what di you do to make the fronts work ,because they don't work on the front struts .
[QUOTE=mk3 cressida;87521]hey mann what di you do to make the fronts work ,because they don't work on the front struts .[/QUOTE] These kinds of questions shouldn't have to be made if thread starters were passing on CORRECT information. Eightsixgts, Please post pics of the install or the supsension. Did you even do your own install??!?! Are you sure you did not use S13 suspension? It seems more likely, since S13 parts mate better to the Y33 chassis. Please do your homework and post USEFUL information, as opposed to hearsay. Thank you Chris
the t models are dif set up then the standard q.
mebippu;88052 wrote:the t models are dif set up then the standard q.
[QUOTE=mebippu;88052]the t models are dif set up then the standard q.[/QUOTE] Both T models. Explain please. If you could, point out the differences to educate other members of this forum. Thank you. Chris
mebippu;88052 wrote:the t models are dif set up then the standard q.
[QUOTE=mebippu;88052]the t models are dif set up then the standard q.[/QUOTE] Ok. So with a bit more leg work, i'll add credible information. 1997-98 Q45 and/or Q45t same front struts. 1999+ is where they have two different options. We're still trying to get to the bottom of this. Anyone else have anything that we can reference. Pictures??? Is this a myth? Chris
Theonly difference between the Q45T and Non-Touring is, the Touring has a little motor on top of each strut up front that allows you to tighten the suspension when neede by a push of a button! Everything else is pretty much the same! BTW-C4President has been rockin S14/13 springs (I forget which ones) on his Y33 and he has 20s w/ meaty tires! Hit him up......
he has a 99-01 touring, I figured it out buy checking vin and part #s ,i work @ a dealership,97 ,98 setup is dif from 99,01 .
PANCAKES!;88411 wrote:Theonly difference between the Q45T and Non-Touring is, the Touring has a little motor on top of each strut up front that allows you to tighten the suspension when neede by a push of a button! Everything else is pretty much the same!
BTW-C4President has been rockin S14/13 springs (I forget which ones) on his Y33 and he has 20s w/ meaty tires! Hit him up......
[QUOTE=PANCAKES!;88411]Theonly difference between the Q45T and Non-Touring is, the Touring has a little motor on top of each strut up front that allows you to tighten the suspension when neede by a push of a button! Everything else is pretty much the same! BTW-C4President has been rockin S14/13 springs (I forget which ones) on his Y33 and he has 20s w/ meaty tires! Hit him up......[/QUOTE] Your comments aren't really useful. We've already come to the conclusion that things are different. What we need to know now is, how do they differ with respect to using S-chassis springs. Let us know if you come up with anything better. Thank you Chris
chrisngo;88475 wrote:Your comments aren't really useful. We've already come to the conclusion that things are different. What we need to know now is, how do they differ with respect to using S-chassis springs.
Let us know if you come up with anything better.
Thank you
Chris
[quote=chrisngo;88475]Your comments aren't really useful. We've already come to the conclusion that things are different. What we need to know now is, how do they differ with respect to using S-chassis springs. Let us know if you come up with anything better. Thank you Chris[/quote] you know Chris, there really isn't any need for the condescending tone. advising someone to talk to someone who has already done what they are asking about [I]IS[/I] credible. the whole purpose of these threads is to share information and what is useless information to one person may be exactly what someone else is looking for. please, just have a bit more tact so you don't come across as arrogant.
Jaykabu Wa Bakimono De;89246 wrote:you know Chris, there really isn't any need for the condescending tone. advising someone to talk to someone who has already done what they are asking about IS credible. the whole purpose of these threads is to share information and what is useless information to one person may be exactly what someone else is looking for. please, just have a bit more tact so you don't come across as arrogant.Yes, I'll have to agree here. We're all here to help, even if the reply wasn't fully answering your question, its still worthy enough of a post to be in this thread.
[quote=Jaykabu Wa Bakimono De;89246]you know Chris, there really isn't any need for the condescending tone. advising someone to talk to someone who has already done what they are asking about [I]IS[/I] credible. the whole purpose of these threads is to share information and what is useless information to one person may be exactly what someone else is looking for. please, just have a bit more tact so you don't come across as arrogant.[/quote]Yes, I'll have to agree here. We're all here to help, even if the reply wasn't fully answering your question, its still worthy enough of a post to be in this thread.
Jaykabu Wa Bakimono De;89246 wrote:you know Chris, there really isn't any need for the condescending tone. advising someone to talk to someone who has already done what they are asking about IS credible. the whole purpose of these threads is to share information and what is useless information to one person may be exactly what someone else is looking for. please, just have a bit more tact so you don't come across as arrogant.
[QUOTE=Jaykabu Wa Bakimono De;89246]you know Chris, there really isn't any need for the condescending tone. advising someone to talk to someone who has already done what they are asking about [I]IS[/I] credible. the whole purpose of these threads is to share information and what is useless information to one person may be exactly what someone else is looking for. please, just have a bit more tact so you don't come across as arrogant.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the comments. You really don't know me and my involvement in this shit hole industry. I'm not trying to cut down on anyone or anyone's intelligence. I mean no offense in what I say. My whole outlook is this...we all come to this forum for knowledge. We all want to come away a little smarter than we were when we logged in. But, I digress, how is this possible when we get people that (obviously) do not work on their own cars and post comments/threads without any first hand knowledge. I appreciate people trying to help. But seriously, I'm trying to get to the bottom of some misinformation, so that people do not continue to try to use S14 springs on a Y33 chassis. I would rescind all my comments if someone would actually provide a first hand account of installing S14 springs into a Y33 whether it's a T or non-T. Staying up till 2am working on a car, and realizing that shit doesn't work is not fun. (You're prob thinking it's personal at this point...LOL.) Thank you Chris
chrisngo;89253 wrote:Thanks for the comments.
You really don't know me and my involvement in this shit hole industry. I'm not trying to cut down on anyone or anyone's intelligence. I mean no offense in what I say.
My whole outlook is this...we all come to this forum for knowledge. We all want to come away a little smarter than we were when we logged in. But, I digress, how is this possible when we get people that (obviously) do not work on their own cars and post comments/threads without any first hand knowledge.
I appreciate people trying to help. But seriously, I'm trying to get to the bottom of some misinformation, so that people do not continue to try to use S14 springs on a Y33 chassis. I would rescind all my comments if someone would actually provide a first hand account of installing S14 springs into a Y33 whether it's a T or non-T.
Staying up till 2am working on a car, and realizing that shit doesn't work is not fun. (You're prob thinking it's personal at this point...LOL.)
Thank you
Chris
well making it fit is just the start of your problem. the s14 springs are made for a s14 which weighs about 1000 pounds less than the y33. So you need to make sure the spring rate is high-strong enough to support the extra 1000 pounds. Otherwise you'll bottom out easily. then you'll need a strut that can support that height and can take a beating. without these two requirements, your struts, tires and wheels will not last. Not to mention how rough your ride will be. Hopefully we can all work together and solve your spring fitment problem. [quote=chrisngo;89253]Thanks for the comments. You really don't know me and my involvement in this shit hole industry. I'm not trying to cut down on anyone or anyone's intelligence. I mean no offense in what I say. My whole outlook is this...we all come to this forum for knowledge. We all want to come away a little smarter than we were when we logged in. But, I digress, how is this possible when we get people that (obviously) do not work on their own cars and post comments/threads without any first hand knowledge. I appreciate people trying to help. But seriously, I'm trying to get to the bottom of some misinformation, so that people do not continue to try to use S14 springs on a Y33 chassis. I would rescind all my comments if someone would actually provide a first hand account of installing S14 springs into a Y33 whether it's a T or non-T. Staying up till 2am working on a car, and realizing that shit doesn't work is not fun. (You're prob thinking it's personal at this point...LOL.) Thank you Chris[/quote]
chrisngo;88005 wrote:These kinds of questions shouldn't have to be made if thread starters were passing on CORRECT information.
Eightsixgts,
Please post pics of the install or the supsension. Did you even do your own install??!?! Are you sure you did not use S13 suspension? It seems more likely, since S13 parts mate better to the Y33 chassis.
Please do your homework and post USEFUL information, as opposed to hearsay.
Thank you
Chris
I appreciate people trying to help. But seriously, I'm trying to get to the bottom of some misinformation, so that people do not continue to try to use S14 springs on a Y33 chassis. I would rescind all my comments if someone would actually provide a first hand account of installing S14 springs into a Y33 whether it's a T or non-T.
[QUOTE=chrisngo;88005]These kinds of questions shouldn't have to be made if thread starters were passing on CORRECT information. Eightsixgts, Please post pics of the install or the supsension. Did you even do your own install??!?! Are you sure you did not use S13 suspension? It seems more likely, since S13 parts mate better to the Y33 chassis. Please do your homework and post USEFUL information, as opposed to hearsay. Thank you Chris[/QUOTE] There's no false information. I did infact do my own install, and obviously it does work since I had my car dropped quite a bit in those pictures. I stated exactly what springs I ordered and you can put together the fact that I have a Touring Q45. I'm not the first person to do it, and I'm not sure why yours don't seem to fit but I find the condensending comments toward everyone else a bit unnecessary as well. [QUOTE]I appreciate people trying to help. But seriously, I'm trying to get to the bottom of some misinformation, so that people do not continue to try to use S14 springs on a Y33 chassis. I would rescind all my comments if someone would actually provide a first hand account of installing S14 springs into a Y33 whether it's a T or non-T.[/QUOTE] The first hand account are the pictures on the first page. I did it on my car, others have done it as well. I don't think it's necessary to post up a DIY on installing lowering springs, do you?
how are those springs doing? any noticeable problems since they have settled?
eightsixgts;89378 wrote:There's no false information. I did infact do my own install, and obviously it does work since I had my car dropped quite a bit in those pictures. I stated exactly what springs I ordered and you can put together the fact that I have a Touring Q45. I'm not the first person to do it, and I'm not sure why yours don't seem to fit but I find the condensending comments toward everyone else a bit unnecessary as well.
The first hand account are the pictures on the first page. I did it on my car, others have done it as well. I don't think it's necessary to post up a DIY on installing lowering springs, do you?
[QUOTE=eightsixgts;89378]There's no false information. I did infact do my own install, and obviously it does work since I had my car dropped quite a bit in those pictures. I stated exactly what springs I ordered and you can put together the fact that I have a Touring Q45. I'm not the first person to do it, and I'm not sure why yours don't seem to fit but I find the condensending comments toward everyone else a bit unnecessary as well. The first hand account are the pictures on the first page. I did it on my car, others have done it as well. I don't think it's necessary to post up a DIY on installing lowering springs, do you?[/QUOTE] Works for me. Your car is lowered. I officially rescind all my previous comments. Thank you Chris
Jaykabu Wa Bakimono De;89415 wrote:how are those springs doing? any noticeable problems since they have settled?
[QUOTE=Jaykabu Wa Bakimono De;89415]how are those springs doing? any noticeable problems since they have settled?[/QUOTE] my struts are pretty much blown at this point in time but that was something I figured would happen in a fairly short amount of time. I really only did it for a temporary fix, but paired with some kyb shocks and it wouldn't be half as bad since they are quite a bit better valved for that type of usage.
eightsixgts;89503 wrote:my struts are pretty much blown at this point in time but that was something I figured would happen in a fairly short amount of time. I really only did it for a temporary fix, but paired with some kyb shocks and it wouldn't be half as bad since they are quite a bit better valved for that type of usage.
[QUOTE=eightsixgts;89503]my struts are pretty much blown at this point in time but that was something I figured would happen in a fairly short amount of time. I really only did it for a temporary fix, but paired with some kyb shocks and it wouldn't be half as bad since they are quite a bit better valved for that type of usage.[/QUOTE] Depends on the KYB. Most struts that are non-adjustable (GR-2) will not handle aftermarket springs that are stiffer than OEM. In my experience, Tokico Blues and KYB GR-2's are aftermarket replacements. Much like higher end Monroe struts. If you want a strut that will not blow, I'd recommend KYB AGX. In my experience, these do very well with higher spring rates. If you go with a spring that is like 40% - 50% stiffer than OEM, then you will need custom valved struts. Hope this helps. Chris
chrisngo;89856 wrote:Depends on the KYB. Most struts that are non-adjustable (GR-2) will not handle aftermarket springs that are stiffer than OEM. In my experience, Tokico Blues and KYB GR-2's are aftermarket replacements. Much like higher end Monroe struts.Very true, but they don't make AGX's for Y33's.
If you want a strut that will not blow, I'd recommend KYB AGX. In my experience, these do very well with higher spring rates.
If you go with a spring that is like 40% - 50% stiffer than OEM, then you will need custom valved struts.
Hope this helps.
Chris
[quote=chrisngo;89856]Depends on the KYB. Most struts that are non-adjustable (GR-2) will not handle aftermarket springs that are stiffer than OEM. In my experience, Tokico Blues and KYB GR-2's are aftermarket replacements. Much like higher end Monroe struts. If you want a strut that will not blow, I'd recommend KYB AGX. In my experience, these do very well with higher spring rates. If you go with a spring that is like 40% - 50% stiffer than OEM, then you will need custom valved struts. Hope this helps. Chris[/quote]Very true, but they don't make AGX's for Y33's.
Benji;89857 wrote:Very true, but they don't make AGX's for Y33's.
[QUOTE=Benji;89857]Very true, but they don't make AGX's for Y33's.[/QUOTE] Then if he tries to use GR-2's then he'll probably going through the replacement process again in the near future. I should have done more research before I mentioned the AGX's. Thank you. Chris
chrisngo;89862 wrote:Then if he tries to use GR-2's then he'll probably going through the replacement process again in the near future.True as well, but unfotunately they don't make GR-2's either for the Y33's. They do make NEW SR Specials which are sort of hard to come by and usually special order from Japan. These do work well with Y33 TEIN S.Tech springs.
I should have done more research before I mentioned the AGX's.
Thank you.
Chris
[quote=chrisngo;89862]Then if he tries to use GR-2's then he'll probably going through the replacement process again in the near future. I should have done more research before I mentioned the AGX's. Thank you. Chris[/quote]True as well, but unfotunately they don't make GR-2's either for the Y33's. They do make NEW SR Specials which are sort of hard to come by and usually special order from Japan. These do work well with Y33 TEIN S.Tech springs. Sample pic (not Y33 Actual) [IMG]http://www.japanparts.com/Pic/pic144/002.jpg[/IMG] KYB USA Catalog [URL]http://kyb.com/catalog/2006_passenger_car.pdf[/URL]
Benji;89864 wrote:True as well, but unfotunately they don't make GR-2's either for the Y33's. They do make NEW SR Specials which are sort of hard to come by and usually special order from Japan. These do work well with Y33 TEIN S.Tech springs.
Sample pic (not Y33 Actual)
KYB USA Catalog
http://kyb.com/catalog/2006_passenger_car.pdf
[QUOTE=Benji;89864]True as well, but unfotunately they don't make GR-2's either for the Y33's. They do make NEW SR Specials which are sort of hard to come by and usually special order from Japan. These do work well with Y33 TEIN S.Tech springs. Sample pic (not Y33 Actual) [IMG]http://www.japanparts.com/Pic/pic144/002.jpg[/IMG] KYB USA Catalog [URL]http://kyb.com/catalog/2006_passenger_car.pdf[/URL][/QUOTE] ahhh yes, i forget that the fronts are spindles. sucks for y33 owners. i do not have a Q, but i've worked on a few. Not the funnest thing. I hate it when we can't get "JDM" struts in the USA. Chris
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I also heard that if you install lowering springs on struts that are not short stroke, they will end up blowing just like your stocks. TRUE?
TipStylez;92134 wrote:I also heard that if you install lowering springs on struts that are not short stroke, they will end up blowing just like your stocks. TRUE?Yes and no, its hard to say, but I will say that Y33 TEIN S. Tech and IMPUL (discontinued) springs can run with the oem struts without problems, or at least I went 1 year with both sets of springs on the same oem struts (143K miles) without blowing yet. Not sure about the whole S14 springs on oem Y33 struts though.
[quote=TipStylez;92134]I also heard that if you install lowering springs on struts that are not short stroke, they will end up blowing just like your stocks. TRUE?[/quote]Yes and no, its hard to say, but I will say that Y33 TEIN S. Tech and IMPUL (discontinued) springs can run with the oem struts without problems, or at least I went 1 year with both sets of springs on the same oem struts (143K miles) without blowing yet. Not sure about the whole S14 springs on oem Y33 struts though.
TipStylez;92134 wrote:I also heard that if you install lowering springs on struts that are not short stroke, they will end up blowing just like your stocks. TRUE?
[QUOTE=TipStylez;92134]I also heard that if you install lowering springs on struts that are not short stroke, they will end up blowing just like your stocks. TRUE?[/QUOTE] I will agree with Benji; Yes and no. I would say the typical rule of thumb is if you're lowering ANY car over 1.75 inches from stock height, you should invest in either aftermarket shocks suited for that drop and springrate, or short stroke shocks if available for that application. If I'm not mistaken the Y33 and Impul springs are a good drop but I don't think it's more than 2 inches.. correct me if I'm wrong Benji. S14 springs that I installed, on the other hand, are closer to a 3 inch drop which really leaves little-to-none shock travel, not to mention the shock is out of its efficient stroke range which is really why they blow out much quicker.
TipStylez;92134 wrote:I also heard that if you install lowering springs on struts that are not short stroke, they will end up blowing just like your stocks. TRUE?
[QUOTE=TipStylez;92134]I also heard that if you install lowering springs on struts that are not short stroke, they will end up blowing just like your stocks. TRUE?[/QUOTE] running s14 springs on your Y33 will blow your OEM struts....not a question of if but when will it happen. The S14 springs are almost 4 inches shorter overall that the OE Y33 springs without compression and they compress more than tne stock springs due to the weight differential between the S14 and the Y33. buyin an aftermarket spring may give you better rates so that compression is not as much, but you will still be way out of the optimal shock travel range.