are you for comfort os lower stance

I finally got my springs in and I installed them myself in my driveway. Man it was hell. I was tired of bouncing everywhere with the s14 springs so I decided to go with Espirlir springs for the y33 instead. only a .5" difference.

link to other thread 
[URL]http://www.vipstylecars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6920[/URL]

Front springs
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Rear Springs
[IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u278/Calicoalitioncarclub/spring2.jpg[/IMG]

with back installed
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[IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u278/Calicoalitioncarclub/spring5.jpg[/IMG]

front. And guess what, i didnt even take the whole assembly out to install the spring.
[IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u278/Calicoalitioncarclub/spring7.jpg[/IMG]

after full drop
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[IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u278/Calicoalitioncarclub/spring13.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u278/Calicoalitioncarclub/spring14.jpg[/IMG]

enjoy and let me know what you think. man it was an all day project. be nice and let me know what you think. Keep in mind, the springs have to settle before reaching full drop

I assume grape drink was drank after a job well done? Anyways, looks good! Let us know how it rides after everything settles.

Im for comfort.  Hope it works out for u

I personally prefer lower stance. Otherwise my coilovers would be wound up 1-2" and not on the bumpstops. I drive my gf's stock echo if i want comfort & practicality...
 
Your stance looked good before, but i think it was just a case of being too low for stock struts. Even on bumpstops my ride is a hell of alot better than my accord which had 3" drop springs on stock struts
And people like zion and others with coilovers on their Y33s say that they have really good ride while sitting real low...
 
But you gotta do what you gotta do... :)

i deff prefer being low

[IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u278/Calicoalitioncarclub/spring4.jpg[/IMG]
Are you a new driver?  And need to warn others of your in-experience behind the wheel?  Because that's what that sticker on your fender means....

bwahahahaha
called out

We're just razzing you man...cakes told me it was from your Lancer days..glad it's only a magnet!

[quote=elpresidente;95989][IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u278/Calicoalitioncarclub/spring4.jpg[/IMG]
Are you a new driver?  And need to warn others of your in-experience behind the wheel?  Because that's what that sticker on your fender means....[/quote]

Yeah we were all messin around on it. The lancer is all dirty and jacked up so i put it there til the job was done. :shrug:

i liked your stance better before.  Id go for low.

Low > comfort, totally worth it.

the reason for the change in springs is when you have kids and your wife riding in your car, bouncing, huge tire rubbing fender and trying to play loud music, kinda dont mix.   i will get my stance back in a bit but, for now, not working for me. I aint knocking all who do it but, my family gotta be comfortable.

[quote=C4 President;95946][IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u278/Calicoalitioncarclub/spring7.jpg[/IMG]
[/quote]Damn, I didn't think that was possible. All this time I'm disconnecting everything. The car looks good. I myself prefer lower, but I've recently gone lower with JIC coils and its a lot more comfortable than my previous IMPUL springs/stock shocks, but that's just me.

I prefer lower even if it scrapes....i'm attending the Yokotas13 school of ride height hahahahahahaha yeah well I was at least ...... anyways I can imagine how bad it can get with the family in there but if you went air...... :biggthumpup: best of both world's!!!!!

Being low is always more important than comfort/scraping/slow driving/etc...

lower and comfort how about that :biggthumpup:

I am on Tein S-tech and stock touring struts. I have had the springs on for maybe 6-8 months and my front struts have already started to go. For me personally the ride is too soft, the ride isn't too bad and not bouncy. I just prefer a stiffer ride and height adjustability. Being on springs is temporary, originally coilovers were the route I wanted to go with but I didn't have the funds at the time. Just waiting for funds and I will purchase some coilovers. I definately want to go lower.

lower stance fa sho.

low enough to break off the reflectors on the freeway!!!!

i intentionally preety much bottomed out my tein flex's so i would be able to drive with my chassis lesss than 2 inches off the ground and not have excessive wheel up travel as to avoid my upper control arms hitting the body (which was happening with my jics) or the chassis bottoming out. Rides kinda crappy but i can drive over everything with no porblems. boston roads suck and i dont like driving slow.  i sent my jic's back to be totally redone to be a whole lot stiffer for more body control. i prefer to be low and stiff as opposed to low and squishy. more problems that way. i just hate angling into a driveway only to lift a wheel and have my diff unload and get stuck!:bowrofl4wj:

[quote=lash56;96383]low enough to break off the reflectors on the freeway!!!![/quote]
 
couldnt of said it better myself...

What kind of exhaust do you have? Looks fresh!

[quote=widebody_Q;95975]Im for comfort.  Hope it works out for u[/quote]
Its very comfortable. Thanks for feelin me on this :biggthumpup:

[quote=SickazzSpanky;95964]I assume grape drink was drank after a job well done? Anyways, looks good! Let us know how it rides after everything settles.[/quote]
You know fo sho i will let ya know in about a month or more.:biggthumpup:

[quote=Benji;96236]Damn, I didn't think that was possible. All this time I'm disconnecting everything. The car looks good. I myself prefer lower, but I've recently gone lower with JIC coils and its a lot more comfortable than my previous IMPUL springs/stock shocks, but that's just me.[/quote]
Yeah man i was tired and just got creative. When I used to work at Nissan, I did it the hard way. Disconnecting the tie rod, the spindal, etc. Pain. Instead, compressed the springs, removed the bolts up top and pulled down. Worked out good. I am gonna be on the look out by next summer for some coilovers though. I do wanna ride low but low with comfort. Anything lower than what it was at the meet earlier this year at AutoFashion is better :shrug:[IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u278/Calicoalitioncarclub/66.jpg[/IMG] 
or
 [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u278/Calicoalitioncarclub/6.jpg[/IMG] 
need I remind you

[quote=lash56;96383]low enough to break off the reflectors on the freeway!!!![/quote]
Well I did that before with my 99 eclipse gs spyder and man was that cool. I actually broke a few off and got a fix it ticket for it too :sad:. 

[quote=jdmsao;96408]What kind of exhaust do you have? Looks fresh![/quote]
I have currently a magnaflow dual 4" tipped muffler with a custom y-pype fitting. Just until I release my secret weapon :dance:

sound clips are a must C4 bring it!!!!!

im all about best of both worlds. but id rather have comfort. cant have a luxury car riding like a honda on cut springs... not too "vip" imo.

[quote=allstar;96628]im all about best of both worlds. but id rather have comfort. cant have a luxury car riding like a honda on cut springs... not too "vip" imo.[/quote]
 
 
Thats why I said comfort first.  If I didnt drive 7 days a week then I wouldnt care but having a rough ride gets to you when driving on bad roads all day.  Makes you not want to drive

[quote=allstar;96628]im all about best of both worlds. but id rather have comfort. cant have a luxury car riding like a honda on cut springs... not too "vip" imo.[/quote]
agreed. People at work and at the stop lights like it but when you bounce like a cut springed car with that much weight on the front. Man in the intersection, i hit a bump and i bounced like no other. Man my car looked good until that happens

[quote=widebody_Q;96701]Thats why I said comfort first.  If I didnt drive 7 days a week then I wouldnt care but having a rough ride gets to you when driving on bad roads all day.  Makes you not want to drive[/quote]
yeah and I literally drive 7 days a week with it. It rides way smoother. I was cruising down the block and people still like it, especially since it dont bounce

its kinda like a contridiction, a vip car that has stiff/crappy suspension.

Crappy suspension is bad. i.e. chopped springs with stock struts. But rock hard suspension [i]is[/i] desirable when you have super tight fitment, or less than 1 inch under the framerails. Notice how many cars in the vip mags have coilovers vs air?

all of this leads back to what I've been persistently promoting from the start. It's all about the [B]balance between stance and comfort.

[/B]to those who have been riding on s14-s13 with stock struts, le't cut the bullcrap please. 

to those who can't tell if their struts are blown, let's cut the bullcrap please.

let's keep it real, and high end.

Tough to get both when you are slammed.

[quote=Dominik;97010]Crappy suspension is bad. i.e. chopped springs with stock struts. But rock hard suspension [I]is[/I] desirable when you have super tight fitment, or less than 1 inch under the framerails. Notice how many cars in the vip mags have coilovers vs air?[/quote]
Agreed. But the airrunner on my brothers car, you cant really feel anything. I am still curious about the coilovers because I liked ridin that low. 

[quote=QoozyFoozy;97013]all of this leads back to what I've been persistently promoting from the start. It's all about the [B]balance between stance and comfort.

[/B]to those who have been riding on s14-s13 with stock struts, le't cut the bullcrap please. 

to those who can't tell if their struts are blown, let's cut the bullcrap please.

let's keep it real, and high end.[/quote]

sigh ok My name is Marcus and I'm a bounce-a-holic :shrug:. Yeah you told me so.

[quote=Kuroikaze;97022]Tough to get both when you are slammed.[/quote]
Well, heard coilovers can give you both but I heard the same about airrunner

Coilovers wont give you comfort when you are slammed, and neither will air. Comfort is given by suspension travel. And when you are slammed (i mean really slammed, not just 2-3" lowered), anything more than 1" suspension travel means hitting the chassis on the ground
 
Any suspension that allows you to drive that low, will need to be extremely stiff to prevent you bottoming out on the road... so while you wont be 'bouncing', you will be feeling every single bump through the car.

that might be true but heck, here in san diego, you can bottom out in pretty much anything. Seen a 18 speed biker bottom out while making a right. :smiley-rofl:. I feel you on the riding lower and all but my goal is just to get it to be as low as it was with the s14 springs but less bouncy. As for air, yeah some air kits aren't high quality but airrunner and some uas set ups aren't that bad. aint felt no bouncin in my brother's car. :biggthumpup:

why don't you just cut a little coil off the new springs?

[quote=OCKlasse;97474]why don't you just cut a little coil off the new springs?[/quote] I was considering it but I am worried about bouncing. I think i am just gonna wait for the springs to settle.

[QUOTE=Dominik;97415]Coilovers wont give you comfort when you are slammed, and neither will air. Comfort is given by suspension travel. And when you are slammed (i mean really slammed, not just 2-3" lowered), anything more than 1" suspension travel means hitting the chassis on the ground
 
Any suspension that allows you to drive that low, will need to be extremely stiff to prevent you bottoming out on the road... so while you wont be 'bouncing', you will be feeling every single bump through the car.[/QUOTE]

Exactly my thoughts. No way you can get the best of both worlds. I guess a compromise is in order.:biggthumpup:

[QUOTE=Dominik;97010]Crappy suspension is bad. i.e. chopped springs with stock struts. But rock hard suspension [i]is[/i] desirable when you have super tight fitment, or less than 1 inch under the framerails. Notice how many cars in the vip mags have coilovers vs air?[/QUOTE]

 I agree! thats why i sent my jic back 2 be redone

[quote=C4 President;97481]I was considering it but I am worried about bouncing. I think i am just gonna wait for the springs to settle.[/quote]
yuo have a linear spring

it doesnt matter.

if it was progressive it would affect it a tad, but since its not cut away