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New rollers. Varianza S4S staggered. 19-20"

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blind_injusticeMarch 31, 2009
#239462

New rollers. Varianza S4S staggered. 19-20"

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Front 19 x 9.5" +10 with 225/35/19 and 100mm dish - good tread but inners are worn in true vip style.
Rear 20 x 10.5" +5 - 120mm dish and the tyres are pretty much stuffed.

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these will be going on my JZS147
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Need some info from someone who has some experience fitting big wheels to the Aristo's.
What kinda guard work am i going to need to do to fit these wheels? Rolling and pulling will be taking place, and im assuming i will need to sand and re-paint the rear guards, which will be the hard part.

Suspention i am currently running is bilsteen coilovers with ohlins springs. problem is that they are non-adjustable... So will I NEED an upgrade? or will it be a try and see type thing. Also, with pulling the guards, will i be able to run less camber than if i was trying to squeese them in the factory guards with just a lip/roll?
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The all important numbers... 
Front 19 x 9.5" +10 with 225/35/19 and 100mm dish - good tread but inners are worn in true vip style.
Rear 20 x 10.5" +5 - 120mm dish and the tyres are pretty much stuffed.

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these will be going on my JZS147 
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/blind_injustice/wristy.jpg[/IMG]

Need some info from someone who has some experience fitting big wheels to the Aristo's. 
What kinda guard work am i going to need to do to fit these wheels? Rolling and pulling will be taking place, and im assuming i will need to sand and re-paint the rear guards, which will be the hard part. 

Suspention i am currently running is bilsteen coilovers with ohlins springs. problem is that they are non-adjustable... So will I NEED an upgrade? or will it be a try and see type thing. Also, with pulling the guards, will i be able to run less camber than if i was trying to squeese them in the factory guards with just a lip/roll?
widebody_QMarch 31, 2009
#239465
Nice wheels. They were on the market for only one year before Work discontinued them so they might be a hot item in the future.

There are a few first gen Aristo/GS owners here who are running fairly aggressive setups. You should be able to find some useful threads in the Lexus/Toyota section. Good luck and welcome :biggthumpup:
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Nice wheels.  They were on the market for only one year before Work discontinued them so they might be a hot item in the future.
 
There are a few first gen Aristo/GS owners here who are running fairly aggressive setups.  You should be able to find some useful threads in the Lexus/Toyota section.  Good luck and welcome :biggthumpup:
BIGGZMarch 31, 2009
#239476
ooooo nice wheels!good choice!
the fronts you're gonna have to shave the fenders or roll them completely flat.but you'll have alot of poke.here use my old car as an example.compared to your wheels to mines,your front would be 3mm more inward.
i think this was my ride hieght.
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the rears you will definetly gonna have to roll and pull the fenders.more than mines was.your wheels will stick out 3mm's more than mines did.
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oh and are you planning to go "vip" on your Aristo or are you gonna keep it that drifter/racer style?if you go "vip" please change out the the body kit,it looks horrible.sorry if you like it.
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ooooo nice wheels!good choice!
the fronts you're gonna have to shave the fenders or roll them completely flat.but you'll have alot of poke.here use my old car as an example.compared to your wheels to mines,your front would be 3mm more inward.
i think this was my ride hieght.
[IMG]http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff314/biggie86/DSCF0004-6.jpg[/IMG]
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the rears you will definetly gonna have to roll and pull the fenders.more than mines was.your wheels will stick out 3mm's more than mines did.
[IMG]http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff314/biggie86/DSCF0038-2.jpg[/IMG]
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oh and are you planning to go "vip" on your Aristo or are you gonna keep it that drifter/racer style?if you go "vip" please change out the the body kit,it looks horrible.sorry if you like it.
blind_injusticeMarch 31, 2009
#239477
thanks for the help, planning on keeping the car 1/2 1/2. Has an admiration front bar (being repaired soon) and veilside skirts/rear.

Biggz, do you have any pictures of a few foot away from the car, so i can see the WHOLE wheel and arch, that style is what they call 'mexican' in australia, wheels outside guards, with arch, above top of wheel.
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thanks for the help, planning on keeping the car 1/2 1/2. Has an admiration front bar (being repaired soon) and veilside skirts/rear.

Biggz, do you have any pictures of a few foot away from the car, so i can see the WHOLE wheel and arch, that style is what they call 'mexican' in australia, wheels outside guards, with arch, above top of wheel.
BIGGZMarch 31, 2009
#239480
nah sorry man,i believe thats the only photos i have with th car up.all my other pics is where my car is slammed.but i'll look again.
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nah sorry man,i believe thats the only photos i have with th car up.all my other pics is where my car is slammed.but i'll look again.
blind_injusticeMarch 31, 2009
#239482
And, still waiting for a mod to approve me so i can post in the lexus/toyota section :)
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And, still waiting for a mod to approve me so i can post in the lexus/toyota section :)
BIGGZMarch 31, 2009
#239483
i got this pic.but this was before the spacers.in those pics above i had a 20mm spacer in the front and a 8mm spacer in back.
so with your specs,in the front imagine it sticking out 14mm's more and the rears 11mm's more
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i got this pic.but this was before the spacers.in those pics above i had a 20mm spacer in the front and a 8mm spacer in back.
so with your specs,in the front imagine it sticking out 14mm's more and the rears 11mm's more
[IMG]http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff314/biggie86/DSCF0034-4.jpg[/IMG]
blind_injusticeMarch 31, 2009
#239487
is that the exact same specs as in your avatar? just lowered onto the guards?
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is that the exact same specs as in your avatar? just lowered onto the guards?
burgyMarch 31, 2009
#239488
nice wheels. great pick up!
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nice wheels.  great pick up!
SchnitzMarch 31, 2009
#239493
Sick wheels & setup! The rarity and style of those wheels are amazing.
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Sick wheels & setup! The rarity and style of those wheels are amazing.
PagongMarch 31, 2009
#239528
Nice looking wheels!! good luck with the project
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Nice looking wheels!!  good luck with the project
20sburningMarch 31, 2009
#239534
Nice looking Wheels.... but I do agree with BIGGZ about the body kit...
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Nice looking Wheels.... but I do agree with BIGGZ about the body kit...
//935GS400March 31, 2009
#239556
cant wait to see em on! i dont know why work discontinued them.. there dope.
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cant wait to see em on! i dont know why work discontinued them.. there dope.
BIGGZMarch 31, 2009
#239600
blind_injustice;239487 wrote:is that the exact same specs as in your avatar? just lowered onto the guards?


its the same wheels,but the first set of pics i had 20mm spacer in front and a 8mm spacer in back.
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[QUOTE=blind_injustice;239487]is that the exact same specs as in your avatar? just lowered onto the guards?[/QUOTE]

its the same wheels,but the first set of pics i had 20mm spacer in front and a 8mm spacer in back.
hondaboiApril 1, 2009
#239635
ohhh..nice...

i wanna see how it looks like!!!
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ohhh..nice...

i wanna see how it looks like!!!
OGApril 1, 2009
#239636
i don't know why this wheel didn't catch on. i thought it was hot, but it got 0 play.
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i don't know why this wheel didn't catch on. i thought it was hot, but it got 0 play.
ALEXTHESUS*PECTApril 1, 2009
#239639
i really like the wheel too! clean style with nice look!
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i really like the wheel too! clean style with nice look!
Green PouponApril 1, 2009
#239658
BLKonBLK98;239636 wrote:i don't know why this wheel didn't catch on. i thought it was hot, but it got 0 play.


truth.

The best I can figure is they cut the spoke faces too thin so it looked to sporty. You would think shuriken wheels would be a huge hit in japan.
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[QUOTE=BLKonBLK98;239636]i don't know why this wheel didn't catch on. i thought it was hot, but it got 0 play.[/QUOTE]

truth.

The best I can figure is they cut the spoke faces too thin so it looked to sporty. You would think shuriken wheels would be a huge hit in japan.
widebody_QApril 1, 2009
#239684
Timing is everything. If they would have waited 6-12 months to release this wheel, it would of been a sucess. A lot of wheel makers are going with a similiar style wheel in their current line ups.
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Timing is everything. If they would have waited 6-12 months to release this wheel, it would of been a sucess. A lot of wheel makers are going with a similiar style wheel in their current line ups.
VipDoutApril 1, 2009
#239688
glad to see biggs posted up great info
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glad to see biggs posted up great info
ant_jzs160April 1, 2009
#239707
blind - BIGGZ was on air so he ran spacers so that when he was dumped his wheels were flush as, and then at ride height it meant they stuck out like the first lot of pics he posted.

i reckon you will want the adjustability of coilovers to fine tune your setup. you dont HAVE to if by some luck it works out, but i reckon you'll probably end up needing some adjustability.

if you are on coilovers, you may be able to acheive a ride height somewhere between BIGGZ ride height on air and his dropped height. A couple of degrees of camber also will help which you should also be able to have on coils.

then you've got extra stretch as well. if you know you dont want too much camber and want to pull, then your best off getting the lips hammered in and then pull the guards from there. whereas if you shave the lips right off then decide you want to pull, the panel is gonna be quite thin on the edge.

its gonna have a heck of a lot to do with ride height etc though cause with the 19/20 stagger and the pulling of guards and so on, you really want to end up with the pull matching the curvature of the rim and tyre. so if your car is non-adjustable you may not be able to acheive the best look.
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blind - BIGGZ was on air so he ran spacers so that when he was dumped his wheels were flush as, and then at ride height it meant they stuck out like the first lot of pics he posted.
 
i reckon you will want the adjustability of coilovers to fine tune your setup. you dont HAVE to if by some luck it works out, but i reckon you'll probably end up needing some adjustability.
 
if you are on coilovers, you may be able to acheive a ride height somewhere between BIGGZ ride height on air and his dropped height. A couple of degrees of camber also will help which you should also be able to have on coils.
 
then you've got extra stretch as well. if you know you dont want too much camber and want to pull, then your best off getting the lips hammered in and then pull the guards from there. whereas if you shave the lips right off then decide you want to pull, the panel is gonna be quite thin on the edge. 
 
its gonna have a heck of a lot to do with ride height etc though cause with the 19/20 stagger and the pulling of guards and so on, you really want to end up with the pull matching the curvature of the rim and tyre. so if your car is non-adjustable you may not be able to acheive the best look.
blind_injusticeApril 1, 2009
#239722
yea, what i will most likely do is fit the wheels with the current susp setup, then later on down the road buy the adj suspention.
Wheels didnt take on in mass as they are close to $6000 AUD BEFORE tyres... so close to $7000 aud for a set of wheels kinda cuts the crop.
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yea, what i will most likely do is fit the wheels with the current susp setup, then later on down the road buy the adj suspention. 
Wheels didnt take on in mass as they are close to $6000 AUD BEFORE tyres... so close to $7000 aud for a set of wheels kinda cuts the crop.
slammedcelApril 1, 2009
#239728
Hey Blind, ahh you bought the varianzas!! I was seriously thinking about buying them for my ls400 but was going to cost me too much in bodywork to fit them. Once I pay off my JICs I'm sure the boys at importmonster will be bringing more vip wheels in.

Awesome wheels can't wait to see them on your car!! Good luck with the fitment.
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Hey Blind, ahh you bought the varianzas!! I was seriously thinking about buying them for my ls400 but was going to cost me too much in bodywork to fit them.  Once I pay off my JICs I'm sure the boys at importmonster will be bringing more vip wheels in.

Awesome wheels can't wait to see them on your car!! Good luck with the fitment.
blind_injusticeApril 1, 2009
#239875
hey, thanks mate. Yea i think there were 3 serious buyers. I waited 24 hours for anyone involved to be contacted about my acquisition. I guess im just the lucky bugger to ended up with em! :) Ive been quoted around $250 a corner to get the guard work done in primer, i need to re-paint my bonnet and front bumper anyways. So it's kinda all falling into place. But Coilovers ontop of that is another added cost im going to have to factor in : (
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hey, thanks mate. Yea i think there were 3 serious buyers. I waited 24 hours for anyone involved to be contacted about my acquisition.  I guess im just the lucky bugger to ended up with em! :) Ive been quoted around $250 a corner to get the guard work done in primer, i need to re-paint my bonnet and front bumper anyways. So it's kinda all falling into place. But Coilovers ontop of that is another added cost im going to have to factor in : (
slammedcelApril 1, 2009
#239878
Awesome man, glad you got them, they would have looked crazy on my LS but I thought it was best to sort the suspension first then go for wheels, the varianzas definatley weren't cheap!

Can't wait to see them on your car! When you fitting them?
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Awesome man, glad you got them, they would have looked crazy on my LS but I thought it was best to sort the suspension first then go for wheels, the varianzas definatley weren't cheap! 

Can't wait to see them on your car! When you fitting them?
DIRTYATLApril 2, 2009
#239888
nice looking wheels, cant wait to see them on ur GS=)
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nice looking wheels, cant wait to see them on ur GS=)
blind_injusticeApril 2, 2009
#239987
im making payments over next month, so it should be 6 weeks for trial fitting, and done and dusted in 7 weeks. Then its onto painting, and somehow fitting in a new gearbox inbetween. LOL.
I like the design because the agressive spokes on the S4S will suit the more 'race' look of my aristo, i am looking into getting the Admiration side skirts (maybe rear bar) if i fit airbag suspention.
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im making payments over next month, so it should be 6 weeks for trial fitting, and done and dusted in 7 weeks. Then its onto painting, and somehow fitting in a new gearbox inbetween. LOL. 
I like the design because the agressive spokes on the S4S will suit the more 'race' look of my aristo, i am looking into getting the Admiration side skirts (maybe rear bar) if i fit airbag suspention.